I think for us, even the name crypto is wrong. It is confusing and puts people off. Any project in IT that does not have security is a bad one. Shouting about cryptography is like a car maker calling its products thermo, shortened from thermodynamics, just to sound very clever. It is just off putting. then the same clever clogs communities misrepresent basic info and makes it all just wild wild west.
I think we must push, ¨Autonomous Network¨ as our area and not ¨crypto¨ as crypto really is short for cryptography and itŠa silly differentiator, then folk argue crypto means crypto-currency etc. I would let those people argue and misrepresent while we push forward.
It will still be confusing until the is alot more marketing activity from Maidsafe. Resources are needed to change the overall view of investors who think maidsafe is a competitor to Siacoin etc. Furthermore I think that Maidsafe should be more active on the mainstream area of marketing- I remember you had an interview on the RT channel, this kind of stuff is what we need. Hopefully this is on you plans. 
IMHO the most important thing is that we have SAFEvaults running from home.
People donât have to understand that they can farm, the poor people will understand this quick. The real innovators will move to places with GB connections to farm, just like traders move to NY for HFT.
The app developers will see the value of the SAFE Network, all apps will run on the SAFE Network (Itâs just a matter if your quick enough to understand why?). Who wants to pay hundreds/thousands/millions to aws to scale their apps? This is a Bank in the Netherlands thatâs getting DDos attacks at the moment (these puppies are wasting time and money, probably their customers wonât be happy (Iâm one of their customer btw mwhaahahahah)). Soon underdog wallets like ours will be laughing at Coinbase, Blockchain.info and more important banks and we wonât even tell them how we manage to keep our apps running.
Maidsafe doesnât have to do marketing, just deliver SAFEvaults and watch this thing go into hyperdrive.
I think we might need to do a rebranding, what does everyone else think?
Maybe call it the NIM(New Internet Movement)or DIM(decentralised internet movement) I donât think many people understand what autonomous network really means. And the name maidsafe is a bit⌠Well⌠Strange sounding. We can rename current maidsafecoin to DIM coin or DIM tokens
It will be a different pitch (or pitches) for the larger population than now I think, where our intended audience is technically more aware : devs, early adopters, technology press, large IT users etc.
Iâve started to use âautonomous networkâ and I know that most people will not undressed this. But it doesnât matter until they ask, because it allows me to say, no itâs not a blockchain (increasingly important to avoid turning people off), and to point out what it will deliver. The how and what comes later.
Iâm currently waiting for Jimmy Wales to respond with âwhat do you mean by autonomous?â. Just saying. People who can get thereâs a thing here are the kind of people that we need to be gently familiarising with this, because they will understand it, they will realise nobody else is attempting this, and people will listen to them when the time comes. (By this I donât mean only well known names, but experts in related fields - but well known is good Yeh? 
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So youâve put together a Wikipedia article?
No, he responded to something I tweeted about health records.
Concerning a Wikipedia article: it could also help to have more in depth articles on ârespectedâ sites you could reference to.
Iâm also curious: are references allowed to articles behind a âpayâ-wall on Wikipedia, like Vergeet blockchain, Maidsafe maakt fairtrade internet mogelijk (dutch)?
Look for example at the references of Ethereum.
EDIT: If you can show people of Wikipedia that the SAFE network could be their next hosting platform (so that they donât have to show that annoying request for money), maybe theyâll help more.
EDIT2: of course there is a system in place for âsubscription requiredâ references on wikipedia: Template:Subscription required - Wikipedia
Ah OK. I was going to put a basic page together - I thought you might have saved me a job! OK, back to plan A!
Hey is there an article link for this OP?
All I see is a screenshot
Again I think you and I are focused on different audiences. For people who are afraid to enquire, presentation will be different. By all means work that too, but I donât think itâs an argument against using âautonomous networkâ in the kind of discussions Iâm having and which I think David is talking about. Letâs see though, Iâve only just started using it.
Like it or not, it is the label which has stuck. Millions of marketing dollars would be needed tonight turn that. Sometimes you just have to hitch your cart to the bandwagon for safety in numbers (apologies for the puns! Ha!).
Not a good choice! It sounds like it isnât the brightest bulb in the box, as the saying goes!
In the cryptospace, many see the definition of crypto as trustless and decentralized, rather than as short for cryptography. You could argue that itâs a misrepresentation, as it has originated as a shorthand for cryptography, but terms evolve and itâs not really how itâs being used now.
I think trustless and decentralized can be seen as the next generation of crypto systems, where crypto systems 1.0 started with the invention of public key cryptography and has resulted in the current online banking and financial system and the encryption used on the internet today, but with the requirements of many trusted third parties.
The next generation of crypto systems is taking it to the next logical step of removing trusted third parties in many cases, by taking humans (or centralized organizations) out of the loop, in areas where they were needed as trusted third parties, it opens up the possibility of cryptocurrencies, automated systems and autonomous networks.
I agree âAutonomous Networkâ is an apt description of SAFE but to many it is, and will be, a vague and âunfriendlyâ term.
How do folk fell about âautonomous vehiclesâ I wonder. I suspect they are pushing a marketing term we can latch onto that fits better than crypto? perhaps!
I think the word âautonomousâ is clunky no matter what it refers to. I suspect many people are more comfortable talking about âdriverlessâ vehicles. Not an ideal representation either, maybe something better will emerge.
Agree, but it is weird. Crypto cash types have been around for a while, bcash etc. where the crypto was cryptographic validation. As you say it is now meant to mean something else (evolved). The double whammy there though is that bitcoin etc. has no encryption and people who know a little will think crypto == cryptography == making something unreadable without a key (encrypted). However bitcoin does not do that, it uses crypto primitives like hash, signature etc. but not encryption. So there is a lot of confusion and the more folk find out the more confusing it can be at times, or maybe that is just me 
It very well could be.