Hi I’m interested to know if Maidsafe packages will be in the official Debian repo? I read there was a possible issue with Rust packages and the way they compile being incompatible with Debian packaging ?
The reason I think this is important is that Freedombox uses the official Debian repo and I think a possible route to get adoption is to sell people a pre-configured box as a home server that had a nice Webui
Will it be possible to get Maidsafe into the official Debian Repos?
I haven’t heard anything about it since it was announced, virtually zero media presence and no traction anywhere.
I just took a look and can’t see much reason to even try it (although I have several idle Pi’s sitting around) - there’s like 5 packages that I can install myself.
A recent presentation explains how nothing is going on:
I said semi-dead, not dead, but “neglected” is also fine. I just took a look: out of 8-10 repos, the Web GUI and Image Builder are alive, the rest haven’t been touched for months, some for years.
Because SAFE will have its own Web GUI and Pi comes with a complete GUI which can be accessed remotely (with VNC or MSTSC), I would rather get a “clean” Pi 2 with Linux (or Windows 10 for Pi 2) image and install SAFE on it, than install this “neglected” software which probably has dozens of unfixed bugs and security holes which will remain unfixed for months and possibly years.
I think the current status of Freedombox tells you how much interest there is in such a stand-alone package without support. A non-technical user would probably want to buy a $69.90 appliance that comes with Pi 2, Raspbian and SAFE professionally integrated and properly supported. More recently that idea has been discussed here.
No it doesn’t if you do it right. For example, you can connect to the GUI (X-Windows) over SSH.
Of course it’s better to have less stuff that runs, but normally you wouldn’t connect to X-Windows, you’d only connect once when you set up the system (then you connect Pi to your monitor) and the rest would be through a Web GUI for MaidSafe and some other apps. You could always connect to X-Windows using VNC via SSH, of course.
USB 2 is about as fast as most folks’ internet connection, but some people will want faster (at more than twice the price, though).
@sam_uk: Excellent question - and becoming relevant now…:
Few days ago the first Rust libraries was uploaded officially to Debian - and is now waiting for ftpmaster approval: https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
When core Rust libraries have entered the archive we can help the Rust team adding more libraries until we reach the Maidsafe ones.
Please consider join the Debian Rust team to help package and maintain those Rust libraries.
Rust libraries are now slowly entering Debian, with second batch of core libraries getting approved by ftpmaster earlier today, and getting flagged for inclusion in Ubuntu too - as can be seen at the dashboard of the Debian Rust team.
Getting code into Debian is an important first step, but getting from there to having it long-term maintained is not a given: Apart from code continuing to be relevant enough for someone to invest the needed time in continued care for the packages, the underlying stack of dependent code need to also not evolve too fast - i.e. the developers of underlying code need to maintain a stable API.
I guess what I am trying to get at, is that we should be hopeful, but also realize that the project has better chances at living long and prosper when based on stable codebase(s) - and Electron and Nodejs has so far not proven stable.