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You can use what is diluted bleach if you want but I recommend against others using it for the explanation I gave above.

And No it is not FDA approved, the FDA actually warns against the use of these types of products on humans.

When a product quotes a FDA number then it is always for the USA FDA. Other countries will list it as for that country and this is an USA product so it will definitely be under the USA FDA. Other countries have their own numbering system

You know this is very different to bleach. It’s almost midnight here. I got to go. But yes they are very different and you know it.

Good idea: enough sleep also helps against Corona.


It is bleach - the chemical formula is the same as bleach.

I found the EPA listing though and it is classed as a pesticide.

AND IS USELESS AGAINST VIRUS’ - As I said above. It denatures cellular organisms and not virus’. Wonder why they anti-bacterial products do not work against virus’ unless they are also anti-virus like 60+% isoprophyl OR more concentrated bleach products. This product is not concentrated enough for virus but is plenty concentrated to denature cellular organisms like humans

This product will not get a USA FDA approval for use on humans NEVER it wants to kill humans

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Why do I say its bleach.

Electrolyzed Water (H2O)
Sodium Chloride (NaCl)
Pure Hypochlorous Acid (HOCl)

Well Willie was the first to point it out without saying it

Hypochlorous acid (HOCl) is a weak acid that forms when chlorine dissolves in water, and itself partially dissociates, forming hypochlorite, ClO−. HClO and ClO− are oxidizers, and the primary disinfection agents of chlorine solutions. HClO cannot be isolated from these solutions due to rapid equilibration with its precursor. Sodium hypochlorite (NaClO) and calcium hypochlorite (Ca(ClO)2), are bleaches.

Because it is the way you make bleach. Its just they make their bleach less concentrated and sell it as some magic body spray. If you continue to use it then expect health problems in your skin months after the drying out of your skin exceeds the repair ability of you body (looks like wrinkles disappear). For your nose then in a few months you will likely be having issues (or sooner depending on concentration they make it)

Its a pesticide, anti-bacterial agent and disinfectant, treat it as such and learn from a mistake you made because of some slick advertising. Even the EPA report shows it does not kill virus’


I was being nice. We need to be nice to each other.
My first instinct was to post “Thats effin expensive bleach, ya muppet”

But I’m being nice…

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Bit Willie using that product will have long term problems. At first it will seem a miracle as it removes the protective outer layers of dead skin and the body repairs itself giving the impression of a regenerative product, but in fact it is destroying the skin.

All the micro-organisms that help to protect the skin are killed off, no more protective dead layer of skin we should have, and as use is continued further layers are destroyed while still looking healthy. But the end result is too few layers in too many places and the skin will look 20 years older with major skin problems.

One of the claimed benefits is reducing wrinkles, well yea killing off outer layers and drying of the skin makes it taught, thus reducing wrinkles. But a very unhealthy way to do it as the person starts to kiss their once healthy skin goodbye in a year or two. (sooner if the product is too concentrated)

Personally in good conscience I could not allow such a product to be recommended to ANYONE and I hope he listens and researches factual sites rather than the fake review sites


Totally agree with you @neo. Maybe I should have called it out explicitly as bleach in the first place.

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There has been a case in the USA where a woman on youtube was promoting a similar product saying it would cure some childhood disease and the mother used it as promoted and the child had to have its colon removed another case the child died from ingesting because the throat was destroyed. The woman promoting it was finally caught.

This is why the FDA was warned against any ingesting.

Its that serious an issue. I’ll almost guarantee that company is flying under the radar or the company is not in USA. The registration with the EPA is either by a shell company not selling it as a human use product or just abusing the slack USA system. The EPA certainly does not see it as a human use product but a cleaning/disinfecting product for non-human use.


News to the bjj community that have been using it for sore, wound cleaning, pre and post class spray down as well as wiping the Matt’s down with it. Hmm.

bjj? 20 chars


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I love these fusion foods :slight_smile:

The first 2 use cases are stupid, for reasons more than adequately explained above. The other cases are simple cleaning tasks for which a dilute bleach solution may indeed be appropriate. I do hope they are not spending stupid money on the product being shilled by in post 3640. Its a bit much for common salt, household bleach and some clean water.

Still gotta make a buck somehow and what better method by cashing in on peoples fears at a time like this?
A short rope and a long drop should be the punishment for profiteers like that.

Thanks @drehb Every day is a school day…

How about we just give them a fine and maybe some jail time…

Nah, they would only factor the cost of the fines into their profiteering.

That is a problem so I think some additional jail time would be good. But I’m against killing, unless for food.

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