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I’m not thrilled at all with this news

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You WILL buy/rent our new software - whether you want to or not.

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Apparently it will be a free upgrade, but looks like they’re certainly trying to force it.

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Another reason to adopt Linux as the O/S

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Cross-posting this thread from a while back to say - I stand by my claim there that being extra sceptical of projects which aren’t free(dom) software is a relatively painless and safe bet.

I am more aware now of the unpopularity of this idea than at the time of the thread, but open-source-washing is real and it is insidious, and I find this a good example. Being a free software project is only a small step towards respecting your customers and making secure software, but it is a small step nonetheless.

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This is capitalism for you…
Tell me again about socialism breaching human rights and being a failure?

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crony capitalism.

I feel for them, but I’d bet if your boss told you that, I doubt you would comply, I certainly wouldn’t, I’m far from violent, but freedom deserves to be fought for.

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I have worked in various fabs 15-20 yrs ago - thankfully only as a subbie for specific jobs- Mgmt were quite heavy but to me at the time it made sense from an H&S PoV. HF is nasty stuff and cleanliness is all-important.

Hancock resigns – sadly he will be replaced by another effing Tory shtebag.

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The fab shown in that picture is a more modern automated fab. There is virtually no exposure to HF for the workers there. :wink:

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I was going to point that out, but you beat me to it… HR employee management practices aside, it’s likely one of the cleanest work environments in the world.

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Cleaner than an operating room. :smiley:

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Prrofits depend on cleanliness, you can be certain its not for the protection of the employees.

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and all the Yanks who have scurried off to foreign parts…

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Yes. Technically, even the bunny suits are for customer perception. The wafers remain enclosed in a Class 1 environment within their carriers and the tools. Product would be fine even if they wore Street clothes.

Edit: I work in a less automated fab, though. Wafers are exposed to the clean room environment, which is Class 10, and bunny suits are necessary.

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Like I said, its 15 years since I was in a clean-room. First clean room I was in, was 40+ yrs ago assembling gyroscopes for inertial nav systems.

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They still have some old fabs in use for some smaller companies. Improvements have been made, of course, but a lot of what you remember still exists.

We do have open HF baths here, but they are getting phased out.

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Current exchange rates:
30 pieces of silver <==> $5000

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