The Difference Between Can't and Won't

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@neo

And now you are misusing it. You have taken it out of the context where the author ALSO is curating the data and presenting it.

How? John isn’t touching the board at all, isn’t even looking at it, until the very end of the story. He just put up the board. It would be like putting up a youtube site ready for people to upload videos, then go on vacation for 3 months and see what’s there when you return.

@neo

But if the author does not do any of that then the cork board does not apply. The bittorrent program applies

Not quite. If John returns from vacation and can see that his youtube paradise is showered in dmca take down requests he would have to act on those. The moment he is aware of a copyrighted video he would have to remove it. In bittorrent there is nobody who holds the key and can watch everything going on, including disabling transfers. If there was, they would be in deep shit.

@neo

So it seems you have tried to roll it all up into one scenario whereas it has many possibilities depending on how the author set it up.

If there’s a way to set it up where you simply do not own the private key to the site name sure, but that’s the issue at hand, which none has been able to come up with a good enough solution for atm. But I appreciate the attempts, some good ideas are coming out here for sure. App and non-owned (is that planned?) index are both promising ideas to explore further.

@neo

For the author who writes a youtube replacement on the SAFE network then the smart way to do it is to only write the APP and not handle any of the data, then its the bittorrent scenario and he is not responsible for what people do with it, the same as writers of the http protocol writers of disk storage, writers of PHP writers of 1000’s of applications that can be misused for criminal activity.

Well the issue here is, without an organized, centralized location for all the videos to be listed, how do you make this look anything like youtube? If I upload a video with the app I’ll get a link, for simplicity say let’s say I put the link in my site name, for example video.warz/movie.mp4 - how do people find it? p2p ? I could pm the link to somebody. That’s not a big audience and very inconvenient. No, we need the links to be submitted to “safe.tube” and somebody has to own “safe.tube”. That person, is responsible for what is submitted to safe.tube, the site name that everyone visits to view videos.

@neo

Also the author can be smart and have a community based “take down” system where its the people using the application that vote on making links invisible to those who wish to use the rating system. The author still has no involvement or ownership of all that and thus the bittorrent rule applies.

But it seems you want to have a one size fits all liability case where the SAFE network has to be able to enforce the law on the content.

This is a good idea from a user-perspective. You mean like a reddit type of vote-down? While it could be abused by bad actors to censor, if most users are honest it would help to hide the illegal content, however it would still be available and sent in the html file to users, and would had to be hidden using javascript, client side right?