Symform - Free* online backup service

  • Aimed mainly at small-medium sized businesses/start-ups
  • Uses RAID96
  • Freemium business model
  • Marketed as cloud storage alternative

Homepage:

http://www.symform.com/

Forbes article:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danwoods/2012/12/04/can-symforms-p2p-cloud-storage-platform-really-work/

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Great find, smacz!
I have about 2TB I want to backup to cloud (a lion’s share of which is adult videos, but I’m sure Symform users will not object).

There’s no Pi version, people, but fortunately I have an old Qnap box. I installed the package but I must evacuate some files before I can try to use it. It may take 2 days ;-).

This is looking good, by the way - it does part of what Maidsafe is supposed to do and the give-to-get model is more generous than Maidsafe’s (How much more? RTFA!).

A lot of similarity to parts of SAFEnet.

http://www.symform.com/how-it-works/security/

Perhaps there are lessons that SAFEnet can learn from these folks. I like the simplicity of it all and, even though SAFEnet is by it’s nature more complicated, I hope that SAFEnet can be wrangled to be nearly as simple in use as Symform. It’s not as secure as SAFEnet is, being that any government could knock on their door and demand access to their keys - in that regard it’s the same as any other cloud storage system.

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Really? And how do you figure that?

Because they hold the keys?

“Symform is encrypted cloud storage. We secure each folder with a unique AES-256 encryption key for maximum protection.” – note the words “we secure” and not YOU SECURE, as is the case with SAFEnet.

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Of course, you may always encrypt yourself with whatever you like. I use encfs on linux to encrypt all folders I put on dropbox.

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Yes I encrypt all my data before I upload to cloud. I could leave the porn part unencrypted, but I’ll encrypt that too, just to annoy the government.

They just need to make sure it’s properly chunked and protected (which is also not a big concern, because I just need DR for my backups).

One part that I’m curious about is how they’re going to kick out users who can’t deliver proper uptime and performance.
They’ll probably have a probe that checks that stuff, but I wonder if they’ll clearly publish the criteria or not. My QNAP box is on WiFi, maybe I’ll have to move it to LAN… Maybe I should bite the bullet and get 1 GigE deployed house-wide.

By the way, did anyone notice that the company is owned by Quantum? Traditional storage vendors aren’t that clueless after all.

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Another reason I think SAFEnet is quite a bit better for data security is due to the fact that it’s a fully distributed network and has no central control that can be shutdown. If the State decides it doesn’t like these companies, it goes after them ala Kim Dotcom.

Symform may be pushing data into a distributed network, but if they get shutdown, I wonder if any of that data would be retrievable.

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Just downloading it now - they’ve done a great job with installers - goes on just about everything: Mac, Win, Linux, NAS devices, and mobile … even variants for three flavors of linux. I’m impressed!

Hi @janitor still remember? This at least help you half the way with your :movie_camera: :high_heel: :kissing_heart:

Now you can get an invitecode there are still 40 left so hurry, I just got mine:

If your dutch is not that ++ I can help you.

Go here & scroll down
https://www.transip.nl/stack/

@polpolrene you can get an invite code now

Have Fun or Have Nun

Hey Eddy,

You think you can throw an invite code in my direction too? :smiley:

Thanks,

Unfortunately I’m not the man in charge, but if you go to: https://www.transip.nl/stack/

You can scrolldown and click on GRATIS

After that you’ll see “Aanmelden” Provide an:

  • email address
  • Username
  • Password Lowercase/Uppercase/number

And they’ll email you, if you have any problems with the dutch language I can guide you through. Keep in mind they can be unpredictable with the invitecode sometimes you get an invite and sometime you have to wait a day.

Goodluck

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Thanks for your help but it doesn’t seem to work. I can’t click on Gratis because it’s only text and not a button :smile:

Also there are some terms * associated:

  • Dit tarief geldt voor de 1e maand. Daarna geldt het reguliere tarief.

which means:

  • This rate applies to the 1st month. After that the regular rate.?

So starting the 2nd month you need to pay right?

Do you see this blue button? If so click it

Terms is only related if you exceed space above the 1TB, the 1TB is free.

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That button is not visible for me :

I’ll check back later and maybe I’ll get lucky on this offer

Maybe I can help, so let’s chat.

If you can install crypto.cat

After that choose channel: sfcoin

and a name you want to use

I’ll wait
:stuck_out_tongue:

I don’t want to use free stuff for things that are supposed to work. I want to pay and I want it to work.
I am not saying this will go away, but I could, in theory, upload 900 GB of data and 2 months later find a “new and exciting update” from the provider in which they inform me that the free storage plan is gone.

Symform looks like it may stay around for a while, and I’d pay with my own unused capacity (I have a few TB).
As long as people pay with spare capacity and these guy stay in the middle and collect a fee, they can’t easily go bust or not make money.

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I will look into that when I get home.

I’m at work and can’t install anything right now :slight_smile:

Good luck with paying money for stuff, I rather pay attention:

[quote=“janitor, post:17, topic:6171”]
As long as people pay with spare capacity and these guy stay in the middle and collect a fee, they can’t easily go bust or not make money.
[/quote]Guys in the middle only get the middle finger, because that’s the old model that everybody is sick off.

The SAFE Network gives SAFEcoins, Highly Advanced Security and there’s nobody is the middle. Don’t forget that Symform can just get a visit from a 3 letter government agency.

If you PM me your email I can try to create an account for you or you can do it yourself at home. Cheers

Had an account with symform for a long time, had problems with the client software so never really used it other than a few test files. Just using dropbox/drive until safe comes out.