SAFE Network Client Testing Commences

Last night I turned the client off. This morning I am unable to login :confused:

doh . pretty sure about my credentials.

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The software is still pretty flaky, someone, I don’t remember who, said they had trouble logging in, but the fourth time was the charm. So maybe give the launcher a restart and try again or just wait and try again.

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@malice:

Is it free to have a website on the safe network? If yes can someone explain to me why is the current internet charging to have a website and not the safe network?

On SAFEnetwork you do pay for a website, but only for storage: so just the one-off cost of uploading.

On the internet, websites are stored on commercial servers, so the people who provide these charge everyone who uses them for the cost of hardware, maintenance and energy use.

It is a different economic model.

it worked. interesting :smiley:

@LongV:

This is really cool man. How can you link pages?

Same as a regular website. You can use relative URLs just like normal, or use a SAFE URL to link to a different SAFE website, it’s to a page on a SAFE website.

@advanced:

Last night I turned the client off. This morning I am unable to login

I think this is a problem in the launcher. Restart it and try again - often it fails two or three times before I get logged in (Debian Linux).

I find the same problem can happen with other operations (including in the demo app), so shut them down and try again. Be gentle! :

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It’s all opensource code including the core network libraries. So an alternate for any part of the system can be created.

As for your original question of combining Login/Create account. Two things to consider there.

The UX issue itself where a user could have made a typo while logging in for PIN/Keyword and you’ll now be setting them up with a new account(not very nice).

Secondly it will be hard to implement this without sacrificing some of the security features of the system.

Say in simple pseudo-code to implement this we’d need to:

  • Make a Get Request with the provided PIN/Keyword
  • If successful, then decrypt with password locally (as normal flow)
  • Else, create a new session packet and encrypt locally with password and PUT on network

soon enough a failure to get a Login Session Packet will not trigger a failure back to clients(StructuredDate TypeTag 0) but the network will instead create a dummy session packet encrypt it and return it to the client. This helps prevent people trying to brute force detect accounts on the network as even an incorrect PIN/Keyword which doesnt exist would likely return a encrypted session(dummy one created by the network). This breaks the pseudo approach tho as you can’t seamlessly detect when to create an account as any combination attempt will always result in a DecryptionFailed error rather than an account not found.

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This isn’t supported from the demo app right now.

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On my Ubuntu 64 laptop (12.04), when I try to log on with the same credentials as on the Ubuntu desktop (14.04), the launcher tells me to enter the correct details.

I had this yesterday as well (on OSX). Today I tried the exact same credentials and I got in :).

On your 12.04 laptop, are you able to create a new account? cos if that doesnt work, the binaries might just not be ok with the 12.04 machine than the credentials being invalid.

If you are able to create a new account on the laptop, however cannot log into an account you can log into from your desktop, that definitely can point to an issue.

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It seems to take forever to create an account on the laptop. We might just need to use more recent OS. (anyway, 16.04 is just around the corner and will be perfect for my small SAFE farm. :slight_smile: )

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What the space limit to each website, is 5mb too much?

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1MB per file, unlimited files, I think.

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Am I the only one who can not upload any file to the network?

I can upload single files. The only problem is when uploading a whole folder. Then nothing happens for me.

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The same happened when I tried to replace my SAFE website by a new version: impossible to upload a folder.

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Seems like you’ve got to delete the old file and upload the new one. One by one. Tedious for bigger projects. That’s why this is all the more impressive:

I’ve just tried http://bible.safenet and voila, someone’s actually working on it!

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If you are on Mac OS, check if you are using any kind of VPN or proxy Chrome extensions (you know that if the ‘Change proxy settings’ button is disabled in your Chrome > Settings > Network), if you do then disable that extension. That worked for me, I had ZenMate VPN enabled and as I disabled it, SAFE net started to work as expected in Chrome.

I simply can not choose any file for upload as everything is grayed and not selectable