ProtonMail Beta


#1

You may have heard about it or just read this topic

But ProtonMail is finally here in beta, you can request an invite here:

I’ve got the chance to play around a little. I love simple things and even more when they are efficient. Beside your username to log into your ProtonMail account you need 2 PASSWORDS. 1 to log into your account and 1 to log into your mailbox. You have end2end encryption, but your email still runs through their servers based in Switzerland.

Obviously I’m not a fan of 3 things needed to login. On the Bitcoin level if you would combine Onename.io and Bitid than you would allready have a great way to login. SQRL is allmost finished and that’s another great way to login quickly. I really hope to see more services switch over to a superquick and secure way to login. Enough of my consumer feedback.

If you want a secure email look no further (www.mailpile.is) get an invite for your shiny Protonmail account. I’m sure some time in the future they will be running on Maidsafe so get yours.


#2

Well it’s email, it must run on some sort of server with a valid DNS/MX/SPF record.
Even if you run your own server and store data on the SAFE network, you’d find it very difficult to achieve a similar level of security at that cost.
I think they are doing a decent job. The interface is a bit Squirrelmailish, but that’s fine.

The SAFE network could use P2P file-based messaging (completely different from email, of course) whereby one would encrypt messages with another’s public key and save it to the network.


#3

BEWARE

ProtonMail was seriously trashed on security by the MailPile guys on twitter - not sure if they wrote it up but it made the ProtonMail guys sound like they didn’t understand security at all.

June 22, 2014 Twitter critique: https://twitter.com/MailpileTeam/status/480760671953752064

Later this seems to have been validated by…

July 7, 2014 ProtonMail hack: https://twitter.com/virusbtn/status/486417924253839360


#4

Thanks @happybeing, I should have done my home work better. Thanks for pointing to the facts… Guess I have to wait for Darkmail or Mailpile and never talk again about Protonmail ourelse i’ll get Blackmail.


#5

Not at all, this hasn’t been reported AFAIK, I remembered seeing it on twitter and dug it out. This is a community of growing knowledge that we all hold pieces of. Kind of like Project SAFE :wink:


#6

Not sure if anyone here has heard about it but XCurreny (XC) is already a decentralized anon platform with encrypted messaging…and they say that they trump Protonmail. They are still in development and are just now discussing Web 3.0 applications…with an encrypted/anon ‘Skype’ on their roadmap

"Much Like Maidsafe’s decentralized Internet, XCurrency’s team is seeking to incorporate a blockchain-hosted Web (sic)"
http://www.coinssource.com/xcurrency-web-3-0-a-blockchain-based-content-delivery-network/

Now, I believe the above quote is incorrect as Maidsafe is not based on a blockchain; Safecoin is.

But…I was wondering what folks might think of this.

Edit to Add - “Introducing XChat: more private than BitTorrent Bleep and more secure than Protonmail”

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/introducing-xchat-more-private-bittorrent-070745804.html


#7

XChat - instant messaging, not email.
In that field, BitMessage is available today and you can use it now.


#8

Both Maidsafe and Safecoin are not hosted on a blockchain


#9

@Ryan just to make sure there is no confusion, safecoin is not hosted on a blockchain as @melvin also points out