Totally agree Mark. Co-ordinated effort and community involvement is something we have been discussing quite a bit internally recently. We hope to be tapping a little more into the communities skills and enthusiasm soon.
A khan academy style learning suite would be awesome. Break the vast information into syllabuses and topics. I want to take the course as I am sure many others do.
I see it as arming the volunteers with the information needed to promote. I would love see people taking the course then going out and doing talks to people.
Hi Nick, i do like the new website, but would consider making it more understandable for people who are not programmers and/or network experts.
I wrote a post about it:
Good luck with everything, I am sure you’ll get things going!
Yes I saw your post, thanks for the perspective. Sarah is currently getting up to speed with our content, messaging, channels used…etc… and has just started working on a strategy that will help us appeal to our audience(s). A new website will be part of this, as the existing site is alpha 2 specific, and depending on lead-time for the new site we may need to consider revising the content on the existing one.
Ok…so how about a real community-driven video explaining the SAFEnetwork next time then?
This video took me appr 1 hour to make, consists out of captured copywrited material and is therefore poorly produced. But with more time and effort, combined with the guidance of Maidsafe and help of some other enthousiastic forum members with specific qualities and proper knowledge (or just general creativity), I think we can come a long way. It sure as hell would be a lot of fun.
How cool would that be? A nicely produced inspirational and informative video made by your community. Pretty darn cool if you ask me. Talk about your marketing…
Forbes magazine: “Hi Nick. Before we start, wow great video explaining SAFE you guys made.”
Nick: “We didn’t make it…our community did. Voluntarily.”
Boom. Sold. Case closed. Deal.
Having a thriving community improves credibility by a lot. Whether they are devs or just regular folk. You already have that community…so what better way to show it, literally.
Bob makes the script.
Lisa creates a storyboard.
Joe and John make a few funky visuals in Aftereffects.
Frank has a professional recording mic and a sweet movietrailer-like voice.
Anna does the editing
and so on…
All the while, Maidsafe steers the project in right direction and gets final say in the end.
Well…stop discussing…just say the word and see the magic happen before your very eyes.
Great work in progress!
Good luck with all,
I agree, community driven stuff is very powerful. It might be a video, it might be some other piece of content or graphics. I think the planning (discussion) part is important so that we maximise the effort and produce something that gets the message across to the right audience. It sounds like you’re a coiled spring, so we’ll get back to you as soon as we can!
What facilitates the exchange of value on this network?
What facilitates an economy on this network?
What enables me to upload data on this network?
Why would I contribute resources above the network average to this network?
Why would all the current p2p content shift to this network?
Why would record and video companies offer their entire catalouge on this network?
Why would i build apps for this network?
Why would core devs compete with Maidsafe on this network?
Why would Visa and Mastercard be keeping an eye on this network?
What obvious, compelling, alluring advantage does this network facilitate over all others?
The world media is currently buzzing about a rising phenomenon, is it:
Maidsafe answer: A: Blockchain
Bonus Question 2
What is the object being discussed in the most viewed topic on this forum, is it:
Maidsafe answer: ‘The Safe Network’
Great job @dewild
Not throwing anyone under the bus here but @Sotros25 seems to be a valuable resource flying somewhat under the radar, we should encourage people like that to jump in here if she/he feels comfortable.
Loads of talented people here, some probably a little in awe of the team/project to be overly vocal but if you have the talent and are comfortable please join in and throw your ideas/thoughts out there
Bitfinex used to allow wash trading, maybe it still does…
I agree though, HitBTC is a bit unsubtle and I wouldn’t trust them with a penny of my money for 5 minutes.
Maybe it would be good PR for MaidSafe to ask for MAID to be removed from their exchange? It would be a good display of moral responsibility to disassociate from any known ‘scam’. You probably need more evidence than just fake volume though. That’s been par for the course in crypto for years. I would expect them to do something stupid before long, it does seem like a dodgy operation.
Goosebumps just watching it. I love it. Great work
Thanks for raising this, we’re looking into it now and will take action if users are being ripped off. I’ll post back onto this thread as soon as we have more info.
I have nothing to do with HitBTC, but I wonder if you could be more clear about your exact grievance. When I go to the link you posted,I see a bunch of people who lost their phone or lost their email account, and they’re unhappy that HitBTC customer service was slow to give them access to their funds without those items. Sorry, but this is not evidence of a scam site. It may be evidence that they have work to do in clarifying their policy on dealing with possible phishing attacks by people who claim they lost their email or 2FA phone.
As you know, even coinbase and poloniex have Reddit posts claiming they stole money, etc. Most people chalk these posts up to lies, exaggerations, or regrettable one-off snafus. Can you give me more evidence that your grievance against HitBTC has more merit?
Appreciate the shout out I do spend quite a bit of my personal time thinking about what customer segmentation, messaging, and marketing strategy could look like for SAFE. It’s definitely something I’d like to get more involved in here.
One thing I’m trying to wrap my head around/pull together is a simple and discrete set of the benefits Maidsafe and SAFEnet can deliver. I know the list would be long (and ever-increasing), but I think it could be a helpful thing to have in terms of targeting, mapping needs to benefits, and messaging–otherwise put, pulling together a POV on who we’re going to talk to, what we’re going to say, where we’re going to say it, and why people will/should listen.
Also, it’s “she,” haha
Something I’ve noticed on here is that Maidsafe (and the community) call a spade a spade and ID talented people and their ideas/contributions pretty quickly (don’t know how Mav has escaped a job offer but that’s not for here )
I can only suggest if you formulate the basics there will be a bunch of talented and like minded people who will jump in to help guide the ideas that are brought forward.
Only benefits can come from people sharing their skill sets and ideas, kind of what SAFE has at its core.
Sorry I singled you out but I guess the idea applies to anyone that can contribute, please don’t be afraid to add value, sometimes that value happens in ways you may not even anticipate, you/others just need to take the first step
One of the first steps could maybe be to start a new topic where people willing to volunteer in any way possible could let the community know.
If they were to state their occupation and/or talents, we might at the very least get some insight in the willingness and possibilities of community involvement in the (near) future.
But maybe I’m getting a little ahead of myself here, and we should wait until Maidsafe takes the lead…I don’t know.
Who is to say he has not, I would bet on he has. But its probable that this is not his only interest and may have declined. Guesses obviously
Possibly an interesting guest though @fergish
As I mentioned above I would post back into this thread after I’d looked into HitBTC. It is very difficult to understand how reliable the feed back is on the review sites such as BitTrust, we all know how much mis information goes on in crypto. I also had a look on Crypto Compare where they score 3/5. Again a real mixed bag. I also wrote to them and received the following response.
Hi Nick, Thank you for getting back to us! I understand your concerns and fully share the point of view that user's safety go first. We experienced a dynamic growth in the number of users in the last few months. That cause an increase in user's support requests. We are working hard on improvement of core system and support in particular. I can ensure you that almost 90% of support tickets being resolved within first 24 hrs. And 100% of claims are being processed. Please read about our new Support Center- https://blog.hitbtc.com/new-support-centre/ As for Bittrust, i wonder if there is a chance to track activity of users posting reviews. Although, I kindly ask you to let me know whether you are aware of any unresolved issue with HitBTC, we will definitely do our best to make it processed.
Looking online I can very similar pictures for most exchanges. It is possible that they grievances/bad reviews are legitimate, but it could also very well be disgruntled traders who have lost money, have been hacked through their own lack of knowledge or have experienced slow/poor customer service. This does not make them scams.
I raised the subject of false volumes and arbitrage with HitBTC as well. Their response:
Hi Nick, Thank you for the question. We have no influence on the market price. It is set up by demand vs. supply ratio.
Again very difficult to prove either way. Even today their price of MAID is higher than most others, but with increasing regulation in the area I would think most big exchanges would need to be increasingly careful that they are not guilty of manipulation.
So in summary it sounds like you have genuinely had a bad experience, but I have not found anything (not to say there aren’t issues) that make them any worse or better than any other exchanges. It is important that we have liquidity in MaidSafeCoin and these exchanges for all their faults provide that. I suspect that for many decentralised exchanges are the answer and I suspect volumes will increase as the technology improves and networks like SAFE provide ever greater user control.
Good idea, quite likely all our IQ’s would be raised a few points in the process