Pre-Dev-Update Thread! Yay! :D

Can’t sleep as result of the anticipation…:tired_face:

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My calculations say, the team would give a rough deadline today (or within few weeks). Expecting beta with 6.months and full network within 1 year. Lets see how correct the analysis is.

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… I’m warming up my trigger finger… I’m going to get that top first post on this historic Thursday night update!!!

Edit: unless the update reduces me to a pile of jelly. My knees are already starting to wobble.

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I guess that most work needs to be done in Crust before we’ll see the next testnet. This is the layer where computers connect over the IP-protocol. Here are the last updates:

And…

Have a look here for more info and the code.

Former testnets all worked with the TCP-protocol which is reliable but not as fast as you want for P2P. MaidSafe is now working on the µTP-protocol.

Another interesting quote came from David:

So no need to register on the forum and use a link etc. Alpha 3 will be open to all who want to test :+1:

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And SPAM

I cannot see any mechanism to prevent spamming of the network (add account fill er up mate again and again and again and again and …)

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Agree. Run a Vault could be permissionless. But, without safecoin to prevent spamming, I do not see another possibility but to control the number of users (unless Maidsafe could afford to spend a large amount of money on hosting).

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I was under the impression that we will not be able to upload data to Alpha 3.

How do you test routing etc. The vaults will be run by maidsafe. Also the comment applied to alpha 4 too.

The big thing about PARSEC was it took the unknowns out of the equation. And they’ve largely worked out all the rest so it’s mostly just fitting all the pieces together and nip, tuck and smooth it all out. But it really would be nice to have a SAFE network for Christmas or earlier. I’m so sick of all the censorship on classic clear net.

According to github work in the crust is now beeing done. I assume that this is the implementation of PARSEC that is ongoing?

No, sorry, that is just Crust, it’s getting a lot of attention from that team. Parsec will be done by the routing team in its own repo, currently work being speced out there.

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Since PARSEC is nearly fully coded It’s possible the team will bring with it node ageing. Seems somewhat trivial to add to A3. If adjustments need to be made it’ll just be a part of what already needs to be done for eventual beta. No slow down from here. Just tweaks that will naturally come anyway. :v:

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The spamming has nothing to do with consensus or ageing or adding NODES, but simply you create an account as you now (minus the invite code) and upload the maximum amount of data allowed.

Then create another account and upload the maximum data

Then create another account and upload the maximum data

Then create another account and upload the maximum data

Then create another account and upload the maximum data

Then create another account and upload the maximum data

Then create another account and upload the maximum data

Then create another account and upload the maximum data

Then create another account and upload the maximum data

And keep repeating this until no more space.

So yes the consensus and aging works in the background agreeing that the data should be stored in Maidsafe’s vaults for alpha 3 and in everyone’s vault for alpha 4.

Spamming has nothing to do with adding NODES

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@drehb The SPAM attack is not a flood attack. David was talking of the consensus being quick enough to keep up with the flood of requests. See the post he was responding to

That was about falling out of consensus, not the vaults being filled up by a filling SPAM attack

So still I see nothing to protect the alpha 3 & 4 networks from being filled up if invites are not there.

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It points towards a test safecoin to me, perhaps with them being issued via a faucet or some such. Just having the tokens should be trivial. Perhaps swapping them for PUTs would be pretty easy too. Just thinking out loud.

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For alpha 3 & 4, the easiest way is to have the invites for account creation. Unless there is something David hasn’t told us.

No need to worry about control of adding Nodes since this needs testing.

Pretty brilliant idea there actually.

Would be so amazing to see these long-awaited parts actually working in the real world.

:point_up_2: This is always the case :+1: always count on that

Keeps us on the edge of our seat.

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