Of Maidsafe & Blockchains, Rust & C++

And this is a problem? Holy safecoin batman. Isnt that why we invested. Isnt that why Safenet will upend the internet? Isnt that what current and future investors want to hear? Isnt that why for 14 years David and Nick have been bustin their chops 16 hours a day? Because Maidsafe/safenet is superior? And you want to keep it from everybody because it would be impolite?

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It wouldn’t have to be technical. It could be a personal piece on why you believe datachain is superior to blockchain. I think these discussions on marketing have been brought up in the past before. I don’t doubt MaidSafe have read them, but it seems clear that their priority is on getting the network released and working for it to do the talking, which I am all for. But if community members want to start marketing the potential of SAFE then I would also support that.

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Not because it is impolite specifically, but I’ve watched and learned a lot from David in paticular.

What have you noticed about his approach to other technology? To other projects? And why do you think he’s like this? Just being polite, also respectful, modest too, but I think it goes deeper than those labels.

I’m still learning so not going to try and explain something I don’t have sufficient grasp of, but somewhere inside me I recognise something of value there - and that right from the very start when I first read David’s blog - is what got me to pick this project over others and why I’m still here years later through think and thin. I’ve also learned to watch the waves :slight_smile:

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Awesome. Glad you support this. So now the task is to help with finding a suitable candidate to write the story. We have the title WHY BLOCKCHAINS ARE NOT THE FUTURE and the many supporters who think its a good idea. And maybe a facilitator in @JuanSGalt … and we’ll make sure it’s constructive, not an attack on anything.

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It’s important to remember that Maidsafe is a a small company made up of engineers rather than writers and marketers. Creating a consistent public face and making sure all messaging is consistent is tough, especially when you are understaffed - and particularly when your history goes back 11 years. Different things become important over time, and the audience changes.

That said, I do agree the messaging could be clearer, particularly to the crypto-coin crowd which is where competition for attention is fiercest. It’s one of the reasons I wrote my Top 10 article a couple of months back.Blockchain is hot property at the moment, and not just among cryptos and techies. It’s in the public eye and it’s drawbacks are becoming well known. Seems a shame not to ride that wave.

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As I said earlier some of us have already been doing this. For me mainly commenting at length on blogs from time to time, and on the reddit, as well as here and on Twitter. Come to think about it, I’m quite a PR engine and have also approached quite a number of people online and introduced them to the project.

For your article you might want to take a look at this from Ephi (see below). There are other decent posts around (this thread probably links to some good prose). I think this is worth doing, but the real impact of such things won’t be seen until there’s a product.

http://blanshey.com/introduction-to-maidsafe-what-it-is-how-it-works-and-how-it-compares-to-bitcoin/

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I admire David, I admire his skills, both as a caring and compassionate human being and as a statesman. And I see exactly where you are coming from. But this is not about any of that. This is about business. Money. Code. Rust. C++. Blockchains. Rust developers that are tough to hire. Demands for exciting weekly updates. Keeping the lights on and the doors open. Yes I would want David to marry my sister and history has many tales of nice guys finishing last. I dont want that for David or me or you. You say Maidsafe will succeed on its merits,no Maidsafe will thrive on its merits, big difference, to succeed it needs confidence from current investors, future investors, developers, community etc while its ramping to success. We need to do everything, think of everything, plan for everything, everything that will to allow Maidsafe to reach that success.

Much better from you the MS PR engine. :slight_smile: Im an idea guy, I can tell you appreciate that. And you dont like my posts so if you were serious, you wouldnt vote me up here. So why are you?

I think it is you who don’t get what I’m saying, because this isn’t about him being a “nice guy” (and finishing last), and not being successful at business. I already made those points about why I’m confident they are getting it right, in these respects, but you have missed the point I was making about David. I wasn’t saying he’s a nice guy, and I’m sorry being unable to elaborate. But please don’t reduce it to “nice guy”.

The reason I’m replying is to explain what I think and why. It’s not about liking or not what you say, to me it’s a useful discussion on a subject that matters to me.

What bothered me is when you are trying to get MaidSafe to do something about this which to me is counter productive, or when you make it sound like the success of the project is in jeopardy without “we” all get out there doing this. It isn’t. That’s hype that can easily seed FUD. Those are the things that got me to respond.

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You reduced it to nice guy, not me. Its an expression, not meant in the context. Pick all the perceived awfulness from my response, spin it.

Are you referring to a post on “WHY BLOCKCHAINS ARE NOT THE FUTURE” ?? or just getting out in front now, during this period?

You used “nice guys” not me, and I’ve referred you to what you missed in my post but you ignore it again and accuse me of spinning. You’re now verging on trolling so have a good day.

I said “reduced it”, and that was the spinning I referred to, not the whole post.

Sorry, I didn’t catch your answer but it’s not necessary. I don’t troll, you have a good day too.

Microsoft does datachains?!?!?!?!?
PLEASE do not use “MS” like that. My poor wee heid near exploded…

Microsoft = M$, not MS…:wink:

MS = MaidSafe…

Is MaidSafe…
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Yeah I know - but at first glance I was confused

Entirely up to you guys but the confusion factor - especially for n00bs - between MS and M$ is too high. IMHO *


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*Opinions are like assholes - We all have one and many of them stink

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MS == microshit. It has been for last two decade.

Use a different acronym for maidsafe, other than MS.


Maidsafe is the first “crypto” to use Rust. :stuck_out_tongue:

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I would wait until data chains are actually existing.

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Next time I use MS I think you’ll know what I mean. But Im going to try and spell it out in full, for the noobs