MoreStabilityNet [19/07/23 Testnet] [Offline]

happybeing · July 19, 2023, 3:25pm

ICYMI there is an ongoing effort to package safe binaries for Debian, which has a topic in the forum but I’m not sure how that is going.

Personally I use ~/bin for local binaries.

chriso · July 19, 2023, 3:26pm

Yeah, I was part of that discussion a while ago, but I haven’t look into it for ages.

danda · July 19, 2023, 3:31pm

Question: Is there any kind of versioning built into the protocol for these testnets?

Stated differently, does anything prevent nodes running older code from connecting?

I ask because I would think that at this early stage, we would want to ensure that all nodes are running the same software version, or at least prevent old nodes from accidentally joining.

chriso · July 19, 2023, 3:56pm

I know @dirvine has done a bit of thinking on this issue, and I think libp2p does provide some functionality here, but I couldn’t speak to it myself at the moment.

dirvine · July 19, 2023, 5:27pm

Not quite yet, but it’s certainly an issue we see and something we need for launch. Just another ball in the air, but for sure it will be done. Sooner the better I think as folk do get mixed up and reasonable they do at this stage.

We also need though to cope with backward compatibility for at least a few version, right now though that’s less a concern as it’s boom or bust at this stage of dev.

Secretariat415 · July 19, 2023, 8:53pm

Yay! Another testnet to give us all hope and give the community a great way to contribute.

What a nice start to the 2nd half of 2023.

Profess · July 20, 2023, 12:52am

Another TestNet? It is called pace!

The installation of the client and node binaries is lightning fast, and the installation of the node is lightning fast too.

stout77 · July 20, 2023, 3:42am

A few files for people to check downloads;

Storing file 'samfender.Aye.mp3' of 2990637 bytes (7 chunk/s)..
Successfully stored 'samfender.Aye.mp3' to 0f596b506bc4def921a54ea32c19f61c041cdb732a3f39c48ea817d7bd9ae329
Storing file 'james.sometimes.mp3' of 3852051 bytes (9 chunk/s)..Successfully stored 'james.sometimes.mp3' to 59d264618dd9d75173a79d0eea896e4f97df5fa24e2724104ce6c4d07d3f1053
Storing file 'james.protectme.mp3' of 4180985 bytes (10 chunk/s)..
Successfully stored 'james.protectme.mp3' to 87883ed0c9009475cdcd2bc12189570380d45740b216bf705583fb4b8fa7a40b
Storing file 'james.whatsitallabout.mp3' of 7252985 bytes (16 chunk/s)..
Successfully stored 'james.whatsitallabout.mp3' to 8c4f28add381e8958682345dc9076a4367a0869e64fd6768166160037a7c75f1
Storing file 'Nas&Damian Marley .Patience.mp3' of 5525142 bytes (12 chunk/s)..
Successfully stored 'Nas&Damian Marley .Patience.mp3' to a6cc172526eda9167c77b34c3b650362a1f4ee16f32f0f8d657fe0412a95381c
Storing file 'james.gettingawaywithit.mp3' of 4242007 bytes (10 chunk/s)..
Successfully stored 'james.gettingawaywithit.mp3' to bfa8481e7e5a2c7219e1021b1a8d4b41d840a828a1ae099975d558ffefff36a2
Storing file 'james.waltzingalong.mp3' of 3458752 bytes (8 chunk/s)..
Successfully stored 'james.waltzingalong.mp3' to e473af2f4f5e58506c3c6ed3015825f68d7558e1a18ec33c20360098a04fb530
Storing file 'james.walklikeyou.mp3' of 6819562 bytes (15 chunk/s)..
Successfully stored 'james.walklikeyou.mp3' to f3a366c66a180c8854c00f33bc58bc654585c7db4232598f541cdfe119b0ab7a
Storing file 'pinkfloyd.oneofthesedays.mp3' of 5692326 bytes (13
chunk/s)..
Successfully stored 'pinkfloyd.oneofthesedays.mp3' to f8945bb0568bcad5ca0b0fcd2049bf94cd42248d514a8e2cc6acab634889da1c

These are the current stats for about 20 nodes running on
Shape: VM.Standard.A1.Flex
OCPU count: 4
Network bandwidth (Gbps): 4
Memory (GB): 24

Pretty…pretty…pretty good!

joshuef · July 20, 2023, 8:11am

Actually the protocols are versioned by the crate versions at the moment. (eg: https://github.com/maidsafe/safe_network/blob/main/sn_networking/src/lib.rs#L275), though I’m not sure how strictly libp2p handles this it is required when setting up the protocols, so I’d imagine there’s some incompatability with breaking changes already. But that’s not been tested thoroughly as yet (maybe @bzee you know more there?)

joshuef · July 20, 2023, 12:59pm

We update on stability: We’ve lost a good few nodes still. Perhaps a bit less than last time, but too soon to tell really.

We’ll keep rolling here and see how other bits come along

JPL · July 20, 2023, 1:57pm

My two nodes are chugging along with very low mem and CPU. Very small sample of course, and I’m purposefully not overloading them, but it seems to be an improvement. Chunk distribution is uneven though, 144 versus 1120.

Southside · July 20, 2023, 2:45pm

Ive been out of action for the past 36hrs
Feeling a bit better now.
Should I go ahead and put up a couple of AWS nodes?

bzee · July 20, 2023, 3:40pm

I’m afraid I also don’t know for sure. It’s a good thing to look at soon and perhaps just straight block any peer running an older version (major/minor).

Profess · July 20, 2023, 3:49pm

I don’t know if it makes any difference, but when I tried to upload a photo called “road to freedom”, an error occurred.

After adding underscores to the name, the file saved successfully.

peca · July 20, 2023, 4:12pm

You need to tell the computer those spaces are part of the name and not separating different commands. It is telling you in the error message.

You can use:
safe files upload ".\Downloads\road to freedom.jpg"
or this should also work
safe files upload .\Downloads\"road to freedom.jpg"

Profess · July 20, 2023, 4:20pm

Thank you for the explanation, valuable knowledge. Probably best to use underlining.

happybeing · July 20, 2023, 4:21pm

Hyphens are easier-to-type.

Profess · July 20, 2023, 5:11pm

maidsafe:

Running a Node

You can participate in the testnet by running your own node. At the moment, you may not be successful if you’re running the node from your home machine. This is a situation we are working on. If you run from a cloud provider like Digital Ocean or AWS, you should be able to participate.

You can run the node process like so:
# Linux/macOS
SN_LOG=all safenode

# Windows
$env:SN_LOG=all; safenode

When I tried to create a node, a message like the one in the screenshot appeared - a similar message appeared in the previous test, in the command that starts the Safeup program - is this an error?

But then I was able to run the node on my home computer and, if I understand correctly, it was able to connect to 38 nodes.

However, at the end of the day, the NAT status has been set to private, I understand that this is under control?

JPL · July 20, 2023, 5:21pm

This is because you are behind a router at home or on a network, meaning that nodes can’t connect directly to you. You can try port forwarding to get around this, or use a cloud node. This is a known issue and Maidsafe are waiting for NAT hole-punching (getting around the router to connect peer-to-peer) to be supported by libp2p.

Southside · July 20, 2023, 6:01pm

I got the same from an AWS instance I just started.
All looked fine, it grabbed 18MB of chunks and then decided it was behind a NAT and refused to play anymore

ubuntu@ip-172-31-6-177:~/.local/share/safe/node$ du -h
18M	./12D3KooWHcpKaJ8pNhhzTq6zFp7TPb9L8QwsR8EZUz1JD6n6peKC/record_store
18M	./12D3KooWHcpKaJ8pNhhzTq6zFp7TPb9L8QwsR8EZUz1JD6n6peKC
18M	.

*[2023-07-20T17:58:39.863664Z TRACE sn_node::api] Handling request: Query(GetReplicatedData { requester: NetworkAddress::PeerId( - None - Key { preimage: [0, 36, 8, 1, 18, 32, 56, 238, 173, 97, 140, 28, 255, 52, 124, 219, 48, 248, 1, 86, 226, 221, 32, 103, 125, 116, 28, 67, 27, 180, 71, 85, 241, 133, 99, 51, 78, 118], bytes: KeyBytes([143, 205, 155, 137, 78, 51, 25, 234, 126, 176, 54, 221, 152, 87, 154, 59, 163, 131, 137, 171, 215, 186, 189, 202, 134, 231, 47, 14, 74, 77, 161, 68]) }), address: NetworkAddress::RecordKey( - Some(Key(b"\xe5\xa3\xe6\"\xa5\x8b\x0e\x06\xd4G\x16\xdfY\xf07k\xeaI\n\xf9>\x85\xbe\xd6h\xce\xc1\xfac\n>\xd3")) - Key { preimage: [229, 163, 230, 34, 165, 139, 14, 6, 212, 71, 22, 223, 89, 240, 55, 107, 234, 73, 10, 249, 62, 133, 190, 214, 104, 206, 193, 250, 99, 10, 62, 211], bytes: KeyBytes([129, 225, 249, 130, 32, 50, 47, 90, 21, 187, 101, 238, 93, 81, 45, 138, 53, 149, 4, 66, 251, 168, 134, 241, 151, 247, 190, 159, 223, 253, 18, 236]) }) })*
*[2023-07-20T17:58:39.863795Z TRACE sn_node::api] Got GetReplicatedData query for NetworkAddress::RecordKey( - Some(Key(b"\xe5\xa3\xe6\"\xa5\x8b\x0e\x06\xd4G\x16\xdfY\xf07k\xeaI\n\xf9>\x85\xbe\xd6h\xce\xc1\xfac\n>\xd3")) - Key { preimage: [229, 163, 230, 34, 165, 139, 14, 6, 212, 71, 22, 223, 89, 240, 55, 107, 234, 73, 10, 249, 62, 133, 190, 214, 104, 206, 193, 250, 99, 10, 62, 211], bytes: KeyBytes([129, 225, 249, 130, 32, 50, 47, 90, 21, 187, 101, 238, 93, 81, 45, 138, 53, 149, 4, 66, 251, 168, 134, 241, 151, 247, 190, 159, 223, 253, 18, 236]) })*
*[2023-07-20T17:58:39.863914Z TRACE sn_networking::record_store] GET request for Record key: Key(b"\xe5\xa3\xe6\"\xa5\x8b\x0e\x06\xd4G\x16\xdfY\xf07k\xeaI\n\xf9>\x85\xbe\xd6h\xce\xc1\xfac\n>\xd3")*
*[2023-07-20T17:58:39.864313Z TRACE sn_networking::record_store] Retrieved record from disk! filename: e5a3e622a58b0e06d44716df59f0376bea490af93e85bed668cec1fa630a3ed3*
*[2023-07-20T17:58:39.864556Z TRACE sn_networking::event] Query task QueryId(196) returned with record Key(b"\xe5\xa3\xe6\"\xa5\x8b\x0e\x06\xd4G\x16\xdfY\xf07k\xeaI\n\xf9>\x85\xbe\xd6h\xce\xc1\xfac\n>\xd3") from peer None, QueryStats { requests: 0, success: 0, failure: 0, start: None, end: None } - ProgressStep { count: 1, last: false }*
*[2023-07-20T17:58:39.868045Z TRACE sn_node::get_validation] Replicating chunk with address ChunkAddress(e5a3e6(11100101)..)*
*[2023-07-20T17:58:39.869448Z TRACE sn_networking::msg] ResponseSent for request_id: RequestId(20832) and peer: PeerId("12D3KooWSebWcv4Birvfi9udSersugRdfhZWysC4EcEoGYGd4NoL")*
*[2023-07-20T17:58:39.869569Z TRACE sn_networking::msg] ResponseSent for request_id: RequestId(20834) and peer: PeerId("12D3KooWSebWcv4Birvfi9udSersugRdfhZWysC4EcEoGYGd4NoL")*
*[2023-07-20T17:58:39.879037Z TRACE sn_networking::msg] ResponseSent for request_id: RequestId(21012) and peer: PeerId("12D3KooWDec61qX9bSWwLJhZ3t72WhCCZTYbhRk6hUvf2Ycwi5ED")*
*[2023-07-20T17:58:39.892240Z TRACE sn_networking::event] Dialing Some(PeerId("12D3KooWDQTmENr3G4yi595h6PNfZrpzyYo5WhsXnmM7oDrWodyb")) on ConnectionId(471)*
*[2023-07-20T17:58:39.892689Z TRACE sn_networking::event] Dialing Some(PeerId("12D3KooWDQTmENr3G4yi595h6PNfZrpzyYo5WhsXnmM7oDrWodyb")) on ConnectionId(472)*
*[2023-07-20T17:58:39.892879Z TRACE sn_networking::event] Dialing Some(PeerId("12D3KooWMXtQmTpZB3Fv1Ar9ASaGBP68RroCb79iDxFWBRqCQCmK")) on ConnectionId(473)*
*[2023-07-20T17:58:39.893421Z TRACE sn_networking::event] Dialing Some(PeerId("12D3KooWDQTmENr3G4yi595h6PNfZrpzyYo5WhsXnmM7oDrWodyb")) on ConnectionId(474)*
*[2023-07-20T17:58:39.893671Z TRACE sn_networking::event] Dialing Some(PeerId("12D3KooWDQTmENr3G4yi595h6PNfZrpzyYo5WhsXnmM7oDrWodyb")) on ConnectionId(475)*
*[2023-07-20T17:58:39.893832Z TRACE sn_networking::event] Dialing Some(PeerId("12D3KooWBuD7KSuV4UgzBW7iodyG2BCBqwRXKpocayUHVvT7Lq6X")) on ConnectionId(476)*
*[2023-07-20T17:58:39.898664Z TRACE sn_networking::event] Dialing Some(PeerId("12D3KooWBuD7KSuV4UgzBW7iodyG2BCBqwRXKpocayUHVvT7Lq6X")) on ConnectionId(477)*
*Error: We have been determined to be behind a NAT. This means we are not reachable externally by other nodes. In the future, the network will implement relays that allow us to still join the network.*

*Location:*
    sn_node/src/bin/safenode/main.rs:318:36

Again this is on AWS. I will try from home with port-forwarding later.