Marketing Initiatives

Its a cesspit where fascists go to spout their bile.
An echo-chamber for arseholes - Enjoy.

1 Like

and you arn’t worried at all the SAFE network will include some of that? I am quite sure if it becomes popular there will be some assholes on there lol. If we are about anti-censorship we need to acknowledge this cost. If freedom increases some will abuse it.

I haven’t really checked out the platform, but I would hope its not all like that. I would think at least SOME people are there because their system of ethics entails “good” things like freedom of expression. Lets reach out to those guys if we can. Of course there is really no way to stop the ones with “bad” ethics from using the tool as well.

1 Like

No, I’m under no illusions that “freedom” to some means they are free to espouse hatred and to share opinions images and memes that a large majority of us would find abhorrent. And the public perception of that is a factor that Maidsafe will need to counter , certainly in the initial phase.

As for parler, I dipped my toe into it and was appalled.
Still if its somewhere they can go and not bother the decent section of humanity then that is at least something.

Had to laugh at all the English nutters who hate anything European, and especially French, getting so enthusiastic about the French for “to speak”. But then the right were never that intelligent anyway - wish I could find the academic references that have proved that point in several studies.

Not at all surprised at who the fan in here is though :slight_smile:

2 Likes

lol ya I looked at it and ok I see your point. Its mostly disgusting. I am thinking about a new topic to start. I know we have already addressed many times what if theres some pedos on the SAFE network… ok there’s some in the world and maybe they will use it. The question I want to ask is how do we avoid that being our “brand.” It seems like you hit a kinda critical mass of assholes and then that’s what the place is about. Nice people just don’t want to go there cause its like a nazi hangout. What can we do with our marketing that drives us away from that critical mass of dingbats so that everyday people want to be there?

2 Likes

I would love to give you a sure-fire effective answer to that one. It’s something I have had problems with myself ever since it became clear to me how powerful SAFE could become.
My solution is to call out the assholes wherever they try to pop up. Especially the really stupid Brazilian ones that don’t even know they are fascists :slight_smile:

This may have limitations as a “corporate” marketing technique however.

I dont know what you do about extreme porn though…

A few thoughts off the top of my head:

  • Seed Network with several dApps from non-seedy players
  • Seek out decent and reputable partnerships
  • Invest in/support effective decentralized rating systems

Much like the Internet, absolute elimination of refuse won’t be possible, but hopefully we can heavily shift the balance towards the forces of good, so to speak.

5 Likes

I just KNEW you would be along to speak sense :slight_smile:

3 Likes

I made a new thread where we can dive down into this rabbit hole and keep this one focused on the goal of getting marketing going.

2 Likes

Reposting here to continue the conversation :smile:

6 Likes

Re-posting this too

Last year a friend of @Dimitar had a first cut of a messaging app running. That may make the a good start. Or perhaps @Dimitar could ask his friend if he wants to try again.
It was mobile-only IIRC but I deleted it to save space on the phone a few months back and can remember only a few details. The actual name of the app is one of the details that escapes me…

5 Likes

@ogrebgr the world needs your help! Would you take a look if you had time, please? :dragon:

6 Likes

It was called “Zignals” - i.e. signals zig-zaging trough safenet nodes :grinning:

Back then there were Java bindings for the API so I used them to create the app. Currently I don’t see java bindings. It seems that they are abandoned. I am keeping an eye on the progress of the project and will jump back in when it is close to beta release and work on the app (starting from scratch). Sadly, I doesn’t seems like the project is close to that point…

About the issue discussed in this topic: You have to be mentally prepared and accept the fact that a lot of illegal content will find its way to safenetwork. It seems inevitable. The important point is that when the network is operational it will provide safe space for the good content too.

11 Likes

Hi guys, just posted this

Subtle enough to not get flagged and interesting enough to create a discussion I think…

Jump in, upvote and comment!!!

Edit, already on first page sorted by HOT, at #17 minus pinned and promoted posts!! 1 Million subscribers and currently almost 5k online!!

Edit 2 sitting at position 7 discounting pinned and promoted posts.

Edit 3, position 6

13 Likes

I’ll just leave this here.
Not a wise idea.
You would be considered a money transmitter possibly.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Casascius_physical_bitcoins

2 Likes

I have ethical concerns about this. It’s portrayed as an unaffiliated random discovering something while watching a movie, which is clearly not the case.

3 Likes

Hold the presses, person tells slight untruth on internet!!!
World shocked, revolts predicted in geek communities across the globe, marketeer suicides reported in major capitals!!!

#CryMeARiver

Sorry Joe, this is the real world, we have seen how far our efforts get when we tell the plain unvarnished truth.

2 Likes

I’m a fan of Socrates, who might well have said that you only damage your own soul by ‘marketing’.

I don’t think he’s ‘right’ whatever that might mean, but it’s a useful way to look at life.

Socrates and Bill Hicks, who can argue with them on sophistry/marketing?

Having said that my soul is now scarred by several upvotes.

PENANCE: learning Rust.

6 Likes

I’m a fan of action. When you act, you learn. For example, you may learn that a type of marketing is not effective for our purposes. But you can only learn this by action, not by speaking so… more action, less speaking :dragon:

1 Like

Most modern books, TV series, newspapers, magazines, movies, documetaries, social media, online Ads, TV ads, apps, websites, radio, podcasts, billboards, direct mail, and just about everything under the sun that is advertised, marketed or in the web era ‘shared’ has a level of bullshit to it. I mean what is woman’s make up afterall? It’s a bullshit face mask slapped on a layer of truth to attract the opposite sex (or ocassionaly the same), it’s not entirely what you wake up to in the morning but some of it is.

It’s gone now anyway.

3 Likes

Better than drinking hemlock :wink:

3 Likes