To expand further: now that the top101 has been reached, people can stop expecting it and we can move on. It’s comical at this point. Things are getting done. In that way, it’s an accomplishment.
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Greed is such a powerful emotion, there’s a reason it ruins people, careers and relationships/friendships.
The value proposition of SAFE has only continued to grow as time has passed, more so with every passing day that the world spirals out of the control of regular folk like us.
It’s a very VERY real proposition that a working network with the correct economic structure will do one of 3 things:
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create the largest wealth transfer seen in the world as we all know it.
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transform just a single industry/industries
Or
- Do something somewhere in between 1&2
Let’s say I’m just some nutty pipedreamer/smoker suggesting number 1 is possible, do you guys moaning about a lack of exposure etc actually understand Number 2 and 3 will still probably make you wealthy beyond your wildest imaginations and will still happen with or without the current exchanges???
Now there appears to be unhappiness because you’ve all been fortunate enough to stumble across this incredible group of people at Maidsafe and had a punt on their vision and a chance at an astronomical return.
But for that, for some reason, now there’s complaining because your vision is obscured by your own greed wanting your neighbours wife (the financial success of other projects) for what is clearly only a short term win???
Really??? what the heck? did you fall on your heads or something?
There’s like only <1400 wallets with MAID (so prob 500 actual holders in cold storage) plus a few smart traders on exchanges who’ll hang around post a x10 gain. You are all in very rareified air just being aware of this project let alone being fortunate to have ownership of part of the network.
If you fully understand the above and aren’t prepared to chill out, put your tokens in cold storage and distract yourself for another year of two please go ahead and sell your stash.
I personally feel the first option I mentioned at the start (wealth transfer like we’ve never seen) is probably what is going to happen if David’s dream is fully realised and those who are there to benefit financially from it sure as sh*t better be emotionally and fiscally responsible enough or such a scenario will bite you in the rear end long term and the success (money) you dream of will turn into a curse.
Apologies for the swear word and pointy post, but appreciate how lucky we all are and take the time to look at your motives,…your wallets and your lives will quite likely be better for it when/if the dream is reached.
Before you flame me, even if you disagree with any of the above just remember I’m just a simple passionate supporter like everyone else here and want you to stick around 
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I probably sold all and re-bought multiple times already. Maid has been good to me, was able to rise my initial investment by a lot.
Guess I will keep what I have and lock it up for a long while. Even if it goes to 0 its a small fraction of what it made me already and if the project is realized it will become a substantial sum!
Thanks for listening!
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It reminds me a bit of the many Bitcoin companies who got burned because they designed their business models around the idea of cheap/free bitcoin transactions (which was a reality at one moment). When the future proved that these cheap transactions are not going to continue there was a revolt. But from the Bitcoin Devs side the warnings were there all along that these kinds of business models are not going to be sustainable. Like how Mastercoin (now Omni protocol) got a lot of heat for bloating the blockchain.
Similar error of judgement is happening when trying to measure building Safenetwork with Blockchain projects. As it was pointed out before (in ep.40 of crossroads I think) - Safenet is being built from the ground up innovating the hard stuff all the way along while Blockchain projects have the foundation already built for them (Satoshi´s Bitcoin) so most of the hard work has already been done. Safenetwork and Blockchain ICO´s just cannot compare on a time scale basis but people out of ignorance (including me at some point) feel that they do compare and expect them to compare and then feel dismayed when the reality starts to show. But the thing is it was actually visible all along whoever really questioned this aspect.
My advice is also that DO NOT wait for Safecoin to launch so that you can sell. Even if Safenet launches then this is just A beginning. This is at least another 5 or more likely 10 years of hard work for the potentials to start unravelling. If that is kept in mind - that this is really a long term 5-10 year investment - then the pressure of waiting starts to ease in the mind.
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Agreed.
Crypto markets are a system of transferring money from impatient people to those who can wait. Lol
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I didn’t even know there were additional Next 100 pages. Just browsed through some of them and got reminded of NVO/NVST (which I haven’t looked at in many months)… right when it’s at a very-recent low. But hey at least they have a product right? 
. Can’t wait until they provide Secure Access For Everyone on a global scale with an autonomous new Blockchain-less technology surpassing Bitcoin by hundreds of times.
In other news I’m going to boycott looking in this thread and participating in it and allow myself to read and contribute to the real cost/value of all this wonderment. Let’s start with going to the dev forum, which I haven’t been to in awhile!
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market is always right.
I think the project already has been developed for 10 years? at least 4 years since ICO, so you are talking about 15-20 years investment, I don’t think it’s a good idea to talk about 20 year project in crypto, if it’s not ponzi, it smell ponzi.
Ha! Smells ponzi!?! Yeah right, “they set up a company 10 years ago in anticipation of being able to ICO, something that didn’t exist at the time of incorporation, in order to scam people.” Do your research before throwing around wild accusations.
I am not saying Maid is ponzi, I am saying selling a crypto project with a 20-year horizon smells ponzi, no more than 5% of the projects will last 2 years in the space, please read the context before the text.
Yes , Kingslanding , you are right , time is money , the more you delay the more you lost customer confidence. We are not greedy , we also hope Maidsafe can change the world and benefit to human , but timing is really important.
The real problem I see with this is that we can expect people to be very quickly buying SAFEcoin off other people on the alpha SAFE network since SAFEcoin is now “live”.
Now that could be in terms of millions of dollars over the whole 450 million coins. Now if it goes belly up and you “reset” it back, then there could well be a number of very angry people who do not get back their money.
To do the 1:1 exchange you need to have a secure network, or you will get problems - thus my reason for the get real comment. Resetting live SAFEcoin is not good and could cost many people a lot of money.
Nothing to do with a 1:1 exchange to live SAFEcoin on the alpha network. So why answer as if I commented on that.
A new update and condition begin the 9 march on Bittrex . 9 march correspond with the trade end for maid on bittrex .
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A secure network would certainly be needed - my question is whether it would be possible to make a secure network that only ever has a very light & simple load much more quickly than a secure network that needed to handle a very heavy and complex load (as the SAFE network will). Would it be quicker? If so, how quickly could it be made?
Adding a basic restore capability / some periodic ledger would let people prove balances even if the network went belly up.
My question / suggestion is very much NOT Safecoin going live - Safecoin will only exist on the SAFE network. If possible, my suggestion would result in a placeholder token like MAID hosted on a new, limited close-group-consensus network rather than the Omni protocol.
I know it’s a long shot, but I’d like to know whether a secure close group consensus network that only handles 2-3 data types in very low volumes for token / crytpo currency use could be developed far more quickly than the full on Safe Network. If it could be, it might be worth considering.
On the topic of creating a presently utilitarian use case, I wonder whether the easiest thing might not be to push the whole “currency as store of value” narrative. I mean, at the end of the day, what isn’t a store of value? It’s just that sometimes that value is appreciating, at other times depreciating, and the relative worth differs.
If MAID could a) get more convenient wallet support in a b) more easily transactable format, what stops it from having that form of utility? I guess it would need to have its own ledger, but I think someone around here quipped about forking someone else’s chain and calling that MAID-something or the other. In the future you could say that you can swap your MAID for Safecoin on a 1:1 basis. That way MAID would have utility now and also when the network launches.
These could be pie in the sky thoughts, but it seems at least marginally easier than creating a stand-in network that approximates what the SAFEnetwork is meant to be. Plus, I don’t think it would require core developer attention. There are, after all, so many forked chains out there: BTC & BTH, XMR & Sumokoin, Z-cash & Komodo to name a few. I think the need to find a current usecase for MAID is dependent on just how far this whole “securities” excuse gets pushed/how far away we are from SAFEnetwork launch. A scenario to be avoided at all costs is if the optics deter third party developers from engaging such that when the network launches that crucial ecosystem of apps is barely nascent.
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I’m sure moving MAID to its own blockchain could be done, but I don’t see that it would add more utility than the current set up when it comes to the securities argument. It would play the exact same function as MAID does now, but be more bother.
It would be much easier than creating a reduced functionality close-group-consensus network, but would do far less to demonstrate the viability of the Safe network’s underlying technology.
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Rumours of getting delisted on poloniex strangly gets my finger itchy, get em while you still can?
would not be surprised in a mini rally.
Edit: This analysis just in…
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I’m completely bewildered as to why maid is so cheap right now. Who is selling so low? Weird.
Weak hands who believe the whims of Bittrex and US-based exchanges dictate global crypto performance.
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