Surely, it is ripe for arbitrage? Granted, the spread isn’t helping, but volitilty should surely attract those traders looking for such things?
If the traders respond, then liquidity will come and spreads will decrease.
Edit: btw, this saying seems appropriate:
In the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
In other words, in a small pond, even minows can behave like whales.
arb is risky right now cause of the low liquidity.
It is indeed a bit of a prisoners dilemma. No one wants to put out a bunch of liquidity and be the only one doing that. Otherwise you risk getting really trapped if someone takes you up on your bid completely. Everyone wants to play but no one wants to go first. To me this is where Maidsafe should take some leadership and provide liquidity on chainrift like they said they would. I think they have the most to gain or lose anyways. If this market is not liquid enough I will just trade DOGE or some such. But for them if no one is playing in the MAID market then they have no funding. I think we will be pleasantly surprised how much more comes out of the woodwork once SOMEONE gets the ball rolling.
Aren’t you forgetting about Bittrex? I think there are trust issues for whales to move large capital to Chainrift as they are more unknown than Bittrex. I remember you wrote earlier that you would begin small on Chainrift.
On ChainRift right now, there’s a bid to buy 372k+ MAID at 1040.
Does that qualify as a whale then?
not the size of whale we used to see on polo but I will sure take it. Orders of magnitude greater then any other bids out there. I bet now we see more people that were waiting for someone else to go first put some real liquidity on this exchange. Might be enough to start a snowball effect.
It’s at least encouraging me to trade bigger. Was really hesitant to buy back the size of bag I had on polo til now just cause that seemed like it would be easy to get trapped. Just knowing someone is there willing to buy it makes things a lot safer (of course I still hope to never have to sell to that guy 
)
It is glorious to see the price recovery! 
This coming year will be a landmark year for SAFENet 
previous: MaidSafeCoin (MAID) - Price & Trading topic (Part 1) - #8606 by mav
Generated at: 2020-01-12T22:44:42.804Z
MaidSafeCoin
Total addresses: 16848
Average Balance: 26860.281991927826
Median Balance: 640
Standard Deviation: 557337.8712658499
Gini Coefficient: 0.9485243525625088
Balance Histogram:
0 - 100: 4083
100 - 1000: 5557
1000 - 10000: 4624
10000 - 100000: 1866
100000 - 1000000: 673
1000000+: 45
Rich List
address,amount
1C8TYGbFcVQk74vV8bXD7k4Nuo1LVmjpLp,50722245
1Po1oWkD2LmodfkBYiAktwh76vkF93LKnh,34533986,poloniex
1DUb2YYbQA1jjaNYzVXLZ7ZioEhLXtbUru,19655062,bittrex
1AoDUDd2qK9YU3ps5jzd6hWCzF2kLwUoiN,18233921
1LxGhPNX85DvK8fDtnqK2sMmgjscwB1d2f,17378762
16AoSgZHijaSoJB7X5jv4sNSA6wFMSmSaF,12392855
1BgQmAZ9wSEF5MvrN6dRopUBr1XDw1PAt,7096283
12SdZk7Gd19zbvQZDF447PpHSpGY5SGYE2,4849734
1QBC28kHFPzopBg1yFAisCZ7zY7YAKLdCT,4068981
1KzHa54Qt7V75VmEsSjP2MddPxb7Mwr1fc,3569998
1JPQqHkdpdHdastKR6oaEbM462KX5wq8jJ,3542720
1fhJk7g1YCGXQD91WGoRkzFm5SEWNfBVR,3501096
38sHq8AQiLDMSK1cgEvzDEjsqRfhr7pojN,3263009
18rABFNFz9KEv4uwqbfsuvTYggWhP3hSPc,3094920
1E9erSqTATYgG5n9E1VEUfErBEZGk4BryC,3000000
1K9fmUuiJodaDD9pw9DuUcMcV9GEZfbyz,2949940
15Y6MhwjCH28F4jz79A5x8eSkutX24UAhM,2891746
1DjAmmS6iSg5Xe6wYz37CAMAdvGTQoijiK,2808400
1SAFECM93tBBXsgcG6kcX9AT4JbtNCgHM,2709555
1BXVgghMmZeM2ULduyc3DnmFqDe2rDP7C3,2650264
1DBZY4dpTy6M7twApP7iqBzBW3zpNhd9WG,2376967,chainrift
1F5XwVAnXWJJSMQkYpQda4WQ9587qSPgGy,2359496
12VamRhmcgsWWKWdNuzWqVYTvnuk2Dsx9b,2259498
15qorFPmoxwbnrR5zU4xcnG9pBQEo9DsaK,2213916
1QB7CaqxmMuPbvB6sNyhEEJfybnxxRziLE,2023000
14EaGJBLSkAZhQfKVwqWL2CFrRDPmaMjS8,1939887
1DKRSDHKXir79okp4azCWRe1ToC5Xzzzcs,1513078
1MSCXpZHRR9DJpGcnQT1Nr1VDcL25fXfbP,1500000
1Dswdqa48bDyxekpbJ4qW8Vr5cWnGvP7i4,1456490
1DtFHfBJ9VYMijSeeNWtw3nhXXFVcewokD,1440507
3GF1qodimqKtpxT9pq5bwavPY6fkt2pu8N,1390652
17FHbyWTnvXfzx69ndH51QngYkxWD3z8oC,1383055
1E7FpwS2MFHoo4ebbSCj4ush5aQt6UeExm,1309000
1Q7QpstZnzdL6nhoMVThUg9L5xzjxcMpTR,1300000
12mbxZZtDyVQmW6hffbHxJbpew3KWt8JqW,1250000
1AnH52yPzxKFNXWFPUgP8MG2bX9dk4nnx3,1190003
1DRkDDt8DcoVNMwmrWnnEdNY8sS88Mx5Br,1162566
16rKXAHW2u7x1CNR69uhj2v3G3K351UYwx,1153593
1tSk4VTTPz1hohfCad3j3TurudchhCy39,1128906
141QSMGUpBZ4Zb6bpetXkXDGiVTDgyc1Ae,1089919
13jisWYVyuSJJgbV5zPxzXoZe5zmXHFrAc,1076107
1DjXVLV2YSAWZs2yQ6cm983kAWyjztLxcq,1043259
1A1QUvWu8tuwFM9BtG1ne7oNhoRYSLdeJK,1030431
1PdvS8ywFDnrag1ZKWyj9zYSuoXxuk7kHS,1000000
1H6jSB1EaueuVGN1jzRzh29aCrFJN2NpPE,1000000
1LHsV9agntdLrCYZawuMbMHhpQTMBBFYhg,990576
1GoLDNSHMTMGPJzUL6PjnthNa3s2JVPepy,970410
1PoSHeNs4usDJ4HrZzTxMjfwcFvsaCx1cP,952000
1PyAFC5nhf7zetNzHLEqUXtNf7mYzchCbi,952000
1LUATh4WBCMSrTPk7NY7vMRGjpYm8VPoB3,928200
The following link claims 172,000,000 economically active bitcoin addresses.
With at least 460,000,000 in total.
So we have 16,848 Maidsafe addresses.
If you are in any of the histogram buckets above you are an early adopter.
Once we have MVE out there 172,000,000 will surely be rushing for the entrance.
That standard deviation feels very high, are you sure about that one? Two standard deviations would give about 95% of the population if we can assume it is atleast approximate to normal distribution. Which gives that 95% of all addresses would be within range of
26860–(557338x2) and 26860 + (557338x2).
So 95% of the balances of the population 16848 would be between -1 087 816 and 1 141 537.
Do you know if there are alot of extreme values ± 3x standard deviation and if the population can be considered approximate to standard deviation? Just some early morning thoughts of curiosity. 
I don’t think balances would have a curve that is close to a normal distribution. I would think it would be more of a bimodal curve with a cluster of “hobby traders” and a cluster of “serious investor”
That could be the case and I just thought of that a person might distribute their funds between several addresses which could maybe also have an effect.
From the histogram there are a high % of addresses containing very few coins, probably addresses on exchanges, and a small amount of addresses with a very high amount, but even if they are removed it looks a little skewed, probably to other factors.
ya there are lots of extreme outliers making that SD go up. But also I still just got a feeling in my heart that markets don’t follow normal distributions. Then again I suppose its possible that the sum of all our opinions is like a um “natural thing” which usually do follow normal distributions.
You can check…
https://api.omniexplorer.info/ask.aspx?api=getpropertybalances&prop=3
Open dev tools
function average(a) {
if (a.length == 0) {
return 0;
}
let sumA = 0;
for (let i=0; i<a.length; i++) {
sumA += a[i];
}
return sumA / a.length;
}
function standardDeviation(a) {
let avg = average(a);
let sumDiffSq = 0;
for (let i=0; i < a.length; i++) {
let diff = a[i] - avg;
let diffSq = diff * diff;
sumDiffSq += diffSq;
}
return Math.sqrt(sumDiffSq / a.length);
}
z = JSON.parse(document.body.textContent);
z.sort(function(a, b){
return parseInt(b.balance)-parseInt(a.balance)
});
balances = z.map(function(a) {
return parseFloat(a.balance);
});
console.log("Balances:");
console.log(balances);
stdev = standardDeviation(balances);
console.log("Standard Deviation: " + stdev);
Keep in mind that the top 10 addresses (ie 0.06% of the population) have 38% of all coins (172,501,827 MAID), so stdev is not especially useful under those sorts of distributions.
Also keep in mind that address count != users since a) some users will spread their total over many addresses and b) some addresses will be for exchanges that account for multiple users.
These stats are indicative only and for having at least some (albeit relatively poor) measure of how things are changing over time. I mainly meant for it to be used for relative historical measurements.
Thanks mav, that makes sense, that few balances with high amounts of total coins skews things, as you wrote.
The code looks great, I can’t understand all of it. But when I now look at the st.dev part it seems correct to me, especielly the part that differentiate st.dev from variance.
When I saw that high st.dev, my brain saw something like, if average human height is 175cm and have a st.dev of ±500cm. 
The st.dev looked so high that I could have been the variance.
Nice to talk some statistics, it is not every day common for me.
love to check it out but you are gonna have to walk caveman me though this… where do I put the code? the link seems to just be a list of all addresses.
1 Buckingham Place, Westminster, London SW1E 6HR, UK
Load the page in the browser like you did to show all the addresses and balances (chrome is best because firefox adds some ui to the data that makes it harder to work with)
Open dev tools (press F12, or menu> more tools > developer tools)
Change to ‘console’ tab in the dev tools
Paste in the code snippet, which will parse the data and calculate the stdev from it
I guess if Harry wants to be financially independent buying Maidsafe is one way. He could by more coins than any of us.
Edit: Got me thinking… are there people in the lime light that are buying Maidsafe? Will there be any famous Charachters outing themselves as owners on launch?