MaidSafeCoin (MAID & eMAID) - Price & Trading topic (Part 2)

[Dimitar]

@andyypants

Tell me why I should expect a bunch of new people to notice this and jump on board.

Filecoin - draws the eye to storage tokens after breaking the top 10. You also miss the fact that in our small community there are many millionaires who will buy the amazing 6% that are on the exchanges at the moment

Remember whatever you do to keep 112 MAID to be in the club

@andyypants

If you want me to make it my life goal though, there needs to at least be a token payment to show my efforts are appreciated.

There is nothing better in life than helping other people. Play the game with your soul. Be a force of good in the world.

@Knosis

What is interesting is we have open source code.

As you said, this is an open source project. You and I have to do the work. Let the programmers develop, we advertise. I do not see any problem for anyone who believes in the project and has the financial ability to buy ads on Facebook. I personally don’t drink coffee outside my home and pay for a Facebook ad for $ 1 a day and will soon have a 3rd link with 1000 clicks in the forum.

@Phineas_Burke

I think maidsafe will be open source up to a point but may very well withhold key pieces of the puzzle to prevent duplication.

I advise you to read David’s posts. He really is the kind of person who would open the code regardless of the risk. It is up to you and me as investors to make our Safe Network the leader among the Safe copies.

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[andyypants]

ah @Dimitar nice to hear from you man. You are one of the most giving people I have met here. I think you should definitely be on the shortlist for who we are looking at to give some money to get some effective marketing done!

[Dimitar]

Thank you, at this stage I prefer to fund my own endeavors because I believe that decentralized efforts have a greater effect - 10000 people doing and trying different things are more likely to make a breakthrough somewhere.

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[Audity]

This. This right here is the proof that we are going back up a little. See that tiny gray 94 cents line, that’s the line of freedom.

[anon61899651]

Hey andyypants, welcome back man, it’s been a while!

I’ve read through the entire “debate” and I do want to give you my 2 cents on the case. First, to convince you why to be in MAID, even though that’s always something you should figure out on your own:

• Team is still going strong, I’ve never seem this much activity in the years I’ve followed the project.
• The community is stronger and bigger than ever. People are helping the project left and right. Efforts are being made to already decentralize the project away from just Maidsafe.
• P2PB2B opening its doors for US customers soon, which I believe will allow a ton of US users that left on Poloniex delisting back in.
• Marketing has already begun by some community members, and the BambooGarden Fund is extremely important to get network adoption going.
• Testnet is right around the corner which is going to open a ton of doors for the team and us when it comes to listings and such.

I’m not at all worried about someone coming in and copycatting our project. Don’t forget that we have such a strong community and the team (although not fully being utilized at the moment) has a big and powerful network. Additionally we have the expertise already in place for people to start building on the network once it goes live.

I’m confident you have no bad intentions with your questions but you need to understand that your timing is quite poor. We’ve had these marketing discussion for several weeks now, and the team has explained their stance several times already. They made a promise upon taking the community loan, and for the it’s not debatable. The community would like to see the team have full focus for what they think is important, debating people on the forum on a non debatable subject ain’t one of them.

You do what you think is best, but I’d be a happy buyer here, even for the short term.

[Phineas_Burke]

I think everyones generosity has limits though and we prioritize our principals. For instance, is it possible for someone to take the code and develop a network that doesnt uphold all of the safe network’s core principals. Instead it is monetised for maxium profit. What then? It may be something maidsafe and / or David wants to think about. There’s plenty of examples throughout history where technology is created and then used for nefarious purposes much to the disappointment and disbelief of the inventors. Perhaps this has all been considered and I haven’t read enough of this forum?

[Dimitar]

@Phineas_Burke

For instance, is it possible for someone to take the code and develop a network that doesnt uphold all of the safe network’s core principals.

It can be created and I’m sure there will be such copies, but they are not direct competitors of Safe, because they do not respect the core principles and we can not call them Safe.

As much as people want to make a profit, we still need a good story to believe in the copy. For example, a fair distribution of the first tokens is a good story, ie. 0% pre-mining may have a chance against us.

Safe copy with DeFi pool, with a foundation that uploads useful data - are also things that someone can wrap a plausible story why make a copy. These are things that have been proven to work in practice and people believe in them. Everything else can and will be tried, but I don’t think there is a chance to beat us.

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[Guybrows]

I think it’s a paradigm shift and there will be lots of copies all competing. Very much like there is with Blockchains now. After many years of competition a winner may be crowned but there will probably be room for many systems in the beginning. David Irvine always said competition would be a good thing and I think I’m starting to understand that now. Imagine if bitcoin had been the only ever blockchain. Its bad for technological progress. Competition is good. I think we just need to make sure are first out the blocks in terms of a working network. But they will still need to be at the top of there game to win the race

[Luis_Gonzalez_Alvare]

Speaking of prices, how much can the maid get before Maxwell ???

[Lackys]

I expect it to reach 25 dol

[Traktion]

You’ve changed your tune!

[Sascha]

@andyypants

slave labor … I mean volunteers

I don’t feel like a slave. Are you saying I’m delusional?

@andyypants

that will look more credible then a bunch of work from home people to institutional investors.

Some of those institutions are what the Safe Network is being built to protect people from.

@andyypants

There is nothing stopping me from just taking the code and making an exact clone

Please do. If you succede and get a working MVP out first, I’ll do volunteer work for you. I’ll also make a video of myself eating a sock and post it here, if you like.

[Firmino]

@Luis_Gonzalez_Alvare

Speaking of prices, how much can the maid get before Maxwell ???

I’d like to think between 1 - 4 billion market cap in next 12 - 18 months. Seems achievable imo. So let’s go with 5 dollars in that time frame I’m actively trying to not get carried away here

[Dimitar]

@Sascha

I’ll also make a video of myself eating a sock and post it here, if you like.

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[Sascha]

That’s just regular breakfast.

[JayBird]

To add to those bullet points - there’s a tendency to not see the lush grass under our feet as we peer hopefully at the hills all around when it comes to developers and apps.

I’ll attempt a list here without @ing so as not to bother people - here are some of the technical genies, some of them actual legends in their specific areas, who have worked on something here, are working on something here, or will work on something when APIs stabilise. Be it apps, testing, documentation, onboarding newly arriving devs, analysis, whatever.

In no particular order: happybeing, traktion, mav, neo, jlpell, jpl, latch, scorch, tfa, antifragile, riddim, nigel, seneca, bzee, shane, aragorn, loziniak, southside, lukas, upstate, janriemer.

Apologies for any blatant misses there, this is from the top of my head, there are loads of others. That’s not even mentioning the core dev team with secret pet side projects, and the many undoubtedly waiting in the wings who will flock in when APIs are solid.

To be clear, I’m for marketing, getting more devs in, all that, only positive stuff. But let’s call a spade a spade - we’ve an absolutely phenomenal stock of very talented technical folks raring to get going here, who follow the project and are a part of the community and have their eyes on the code, and anyone considering putting money into the project should be aware of that.

[anon61899651]

Highest weekly close since october 2019 might be happening today, let that sink in.

[hamarana]

[hamarana]

If you spent $100 bucks at ICO in 2014, you spent 1 BTC too…

Now your $100 is worth $23.800 K

[Michael_Hills]

@hamarana

at ICO in 2014

Indeed, I got in much later, and I have more than quadrupled my investment. No one should complain about the price, or MAID being a bad investment. For those who get in at higher prices, just take a deep breath and relax. The best way to know if you have made the right investment decision is to look at the tech, the team, and the community. If it all adds up, you will be happy with your returns too, in a little while. The marketing has already begun. If you can’t wait, there are tons of other short term opportunities in crypto land.

Edit: also, stock market investors would need to wait decades for this kind of a return since the ICO.