MaidSafe Dev Update - December 14, 2017

How does that Phil Collins song go " I can feel it in the air tonight - Hold on". You guys are motoring. @mav great job


I don’t pretend to be an expert on data chains or any of this but I have tried to follow how this all works. So perhaps a link to exactly this problem is being resolved or discussed might be good. More details would be appreciated. :smile:

Also while it’s on my mind. How far along the road map are we exactly?


@maidsafe thank you so much for Peruse all working smoothly in my mac, localhost now works with gulp, I don’t have any issue anymore (so far :smile: ) and web hosting manager also can use, awesome works guys!!!


Good on ya @mav

Thanks as always for the update and we do have a great community here :+1:


Thanks Maidsafe devs for coding and these updates they give super powers.

Now this is real contribution to the SAFE Network, I salute you @mav

I love it, how you super ants keep testing and testing and testing…

Salutation also to all the super ants on this forum, you know who you are :stuck_out_tongue:

Oooh yeah about this @maidsafe

I’m not trying to pump these guys their video, but they got really good explainer video’s + over 1M views per vid, I would put my money up for a SAFE Network explainer vid done by Kurzgesagt.



Boy oh boy. I opted for this little over a month ago after making three inspirational video’s which I shared in that same topic. @nicklambert replied they were discussing community involvement in other areas besides technical development, but I didn’t expect it to come to fruition that quick. Great news!

Work has been sucking the life out of me these last few weeks, but I’ll be happy to contribute some of my creativity once this CEP goes live.

@SarahPentland, @dugcampbell :


Wow ! this is really cool :smiley:

Thank you for the rewrite of the doc on , too !

Excellent news, I’m eager to see what fruits the community engagement program will bring !!


Thursday is starting to become one of my favourite days of the week. Go team!



I think we need an online course as part of the marketing plan. I am not sure how much resource it would take up but I think it would really help break down the network into manageable pieces. We could have videos explaining things, a bit like Khan academy.

Obviously its not a priority for the team but maybe it could be something for the CEP. @SarahPentland @dugcampbell


This very thing is in the early stages of discussion at the moment @Guybrows. We’ll provide more details once we have things a little more fleshed out.


So are we getting a vaults from home test network seperate from and prior to data chain/alpha 3 test networks?

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No, unfortunately these will be crust binaries to make small projects like telehash type messaging etc. It is to test crust in many situations with many routers. So not vaults but this is parts of the project completion we hope and providing tools for other projects to make use of. Here it will be secure connections between computers in a p2p network.

I would like to add a simple overlay on crust to make telehash type networks for everyone, but make these secure and reliable. So perhaps a standard kademlia overlay or similar. It would be neat to see released projects running this kind of code.


Yes, totally.

“Core error: Unexpected: Could not connect to the SAFE Network” is definately not the kind of message which you want to communicate to new users.
Before I randomly stumbled upon this hint, I spent several - pointless - attempts to connect and try this SAFE thing.

I think it’s a good idea to either communicate clearly to the user what went wrong (and what they could do to improve it) or to not communicate any details at all. With this error message, I assumed the network “core” or something has a problem and that I just have to keep trying in good faith.

Ok, now that my frustration is out of the way:

How can I change / update my IP? I saw that option right in the beginning somewhere but cannot find it now.

My provider changes my IP once every 24 hours.

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Thank you! That helped.

Suggestion: Instead of showing the pointless “Core error” message, show the clickable link.


I agree. Many of my guys were always confused and lost by that message. It’s a bit misleading


Rigged up a quick demo with my video team.

I knew expanding my marketing team would come in handy :slight_smile: literally have 4 amazing people right now, to do exactly all these things quoted above.

If MaidSafe needs help with marketing, SAFE-FS is here to play it’s part. Hope to help long term and fill needs that MaidSafe might have in these areas.

Hope it can lead somewhere. Always here to help.

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Uuuuh - I love the clip =D


That’s a top quality production. :clap: I particularly like “unstoppable net neutrality through encryption”. How about mentioning SAFE Network (brand & logo) in the next one?


There was a listing for a job with maidsafe a while ago I can’t find anymore for a ‘release engineer’ or something similar-sounding. Is this still a thing? It sounded like the most incredible job - working on features that allow an autonomous network to upgrade itself and automatically choose the direction it wants to take and how to manage conflicts and self-heal etc … totally incredible (if somewhat romanticised just here)!

But on a related note, has maidsafe looked into deterministic build systems like gitian? I would think verifiability is going to be extremely important when upgrading an autonomous network. The whole topic of upgrading is fascinating to me but seems under-discussed.

Thanks for the support throughout this topic from the community. I really like working on the network especially without any sort of special inside knowledge. To me that’s what makes it such a strong project, because it’s open source and maidsafe holds themselves accountable by those same ideas which make other successful open source projects work so well.

I’m excited to see the outcome of this. Frustrating though it is to be excluded from the internal discussions, it’s nice to be able to work with what comes out of it and a fresh perspective ‘away from the trenches’.