@goindeep Are you still talking about micro-paywalls or other automatic reward scheme based on get request?
I’m not really sure what your conversation is about.
And I’m still waiting for my bottle of Blue label 
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Well I’m not of the opinion that because something is socialist, it’s bad. Ideological reasoning is poor reasoning as not everyone shares your opinions. (Where have you seen true socialism practiced on earth? ). So as far as I’m concerned your argument is flawed.
Again. Poor reasoning. Many many things were previously believed to not be possible and then have happened.
No one is saying there won’t be legal intricacies, of which there are to everything. But what we are saying is that automatic GET rewards for content upload are possible, even on more complex platforms such as a SAFE Youtube, which you originally posited wasn’t possible.
And as that’s possible, it’s also possible that culture could reflect ownership better, and more seamlessly. Which may in turn lessen legal problems.
That you cannot consider such an idea is beyond me.
Again, if you’re looking for a debate for policing copyrighted works, this isn’t the thread for it. This is about original content creation and potential rewards for creators on SAFE.
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Socialism isn’t bad… mate I come from an ex Soviet country, maybe you read on the Internet or heard in some left wing under 30’s hippy forum that its good, but its not and if you want to debate it the conversation is over because your either winding me up or your missing a few cans.
Of course GET rewards are possible there are plenty of similar systems already - but how on Earth do you plan to manage it and what makes you think app developers want you involving yourself in their business? Also what makes you content creators are going to want you deciding what and how and when they get the rewards that they get? Please tell me. Im not the one proposing it, you are so you have to sell it and your not doing a good job so far. I am on the side of reason and your just talking fairies and unicorns as if its pancakes so its not on me to disprove it, its on you to prove your idea works.
So GET requests aren’t anything to do with APP developers. It’s network based, so there’s no interference.
As for CC, that’s a base network reward. Anyone can develop an APP for tipping / paywall etc. Nothing is stopping you as an app developer or CC from upping the price to access content (via a a paywall app). And if you do that, then the problems you’re referencing are the application’s problem (be it a tipping APP or SAFEtube etc).
What the network offers is that the original uploader can be known, and it will facilitate any tipping / APP payments to content creators splitting any profits as per the apps terms. But on top of this, the very act of accessing the content will reward the creator, no matter where it’s accessed from. So in that respect (if the GET rewards were high enough), the creator / app / whatever doesn’t actually need to do anything, as that’s baked into the network.
So the network can offer simple, basic rewards. That’s totally technically possible. No matter what app you access it from. This doesn’t stop you adding an extra layer if you want more money, or charging more and sharing it with content creators. How that functions is not a network question though, it’s an APP one.
Just because people disagree you doesn’t make them crazy. Saying such things doesn’t lend you credence or help further your point any.
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Mods, I think this is the cue to move this conversation into another thread. The merit of automatic reward vs what goindeep is talking about is irrelevant to the current proposal.
@joshuef and @goindeep if you have a comment about micro-paywall please be specific. Give a use case and I’ll answer it, as I have before.
Edit, edit out a bit of rudeness since it seems out of place now that the picture is gone. I kept the tone though.
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We’re looking into it, thanks for notifying us but next time please use the ‘flag’ button if you want to alert the moderators.
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Hopefully this thread gets cleaned up a bit.
Meanwhile, I found an interesting article on micropayments by Clay Shirkey back in 2009 with this interesting quote:
Meanwhile, back in the real world, the media business is being turned upside down by our new freedoms and our new roles. We’re not just readers anymore, or listeners or viewers. We’re not customers and we’re certainly not consumers. We’re users. We don’t consume content, we use it, and mostly what we use it for is to support our conversations with one another, because we’re media outlets now too. When I am talking about some event that just happened, whether it’s an earthquake or a basketball game, whether the conversation is in email or Facebook or Twitter, I want to link to what I’m talking about, and I want my friends to be able to read it easily, and to share it with their friends.
He goes on to make some other revelvant points as well. (I highly recommend the article - at least the last half of it anyways)
In what ways and to what extent could the lack of accessibility to content due to paywalls impact the popularity of that content itself due to it’s lack of “superdistribution — content moving from friend to friend through the social network, far from the original source of the story.” (quote from the following paragraph of the article)
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