This is interesting:
Apple and Google Just Attended a Confidential Spy Summit in a Remote English Mansion
but more so the event programme:
It seems they are getting their heads round the ABCs of the 21C.
What is clearly missing there, is any sense they understand the answer. Notions of real privacy; security; and freedom, perhaps at odds with their wanting a simple job to do unhindered by reality. Appropriate this thread then in off-topic