Hillary calls for "Manhattan Project" joint venture with tech industry to help defeat encryption?

Whatever we make of Snowden and the context, the bits that are here do not look good. Either she is calling for Prism on steroids or SI or some sort of out in the open public interest undermining bribe. I used to like her but she seems so shill as of late and horrid on free speech and privacy.

"There’s a diary on the rec list which is receiving a lot of ridicule by the usual suspects and very little serious discussion.

You can blame the diarist (and I’ve seen a movement now among the Very Serious Bloggers that popular diaries appearing on the rec list are WRECKING this blog!), as the diary itself doesn’t go into much detail as to this tweet from Edward Snowden:

Maybe it would be a good idea to have some more information on what Snowden was talking about while he was watching the latest Democratic debate.

This Rolling Stone article gives some explanation. It’s short, so I will only quote two paragraphs:

  • “it was troubling Saturday evening to hear Clinton’s response to a question about the power of high technology to ensure privacy. Blasting “encrypted communication that no law enforcement agency can break into,” Clinton said, “I would hope that, given the extraordinary capacities that the tech community has and the legitimate needs and questions from law enforcement, that there could be a Manhattan-like project — something that would bring the government and the” tech communities together to see they’re not adversaries, they’ve got to be partners.”*

Clinton’s Big Brotherish proposal was as troubling as it was vague. And it seemed stubbornly resistant to the reality that America’s tech firms have shifted to powerful encryption — precisely in the wake of Snowden’s revelations — as a way to reassure consumers around the globe that they are not tools of the American surveillance state.
I know there are many people here at Daily Kos who despise Snowden and throw around a lot of unfounded garbage about him — that he still has endless data that is dangerous to the US, he gave Russia information; all accusations without one shred of proof — the hatred is visceral and I don’t share it. I oppose it. Without Snowden’s revelations, we never would have had proof of the kind of illegal spying our own government has used on its citizens, proof that directly led to Federal Judge Richard Leon’s ruling that this spying was unconstitutional:

Reiterating his prior ruling which found the U.S. government’s surveillance of civilians’ telephone records to be unconstitutional—“Orwellian,” even—a federal judge on Monday ordered the National Security Agency to halt its bulk collection program.

“This court simply cannot, and will not, allow the government to trump the Constitution merely because it suits the exigencies of the moment,” Judge Richard Leon wrote in his 43-page decision in the case Klayman v. Obama.
We still have a long way to go when it comes to fighting the “Orwellian” tendency of our security agencies to put their notion of security ahead of our privacy and our freedom. Sadly, too many people are willing to give up their privacy, believing they will be safer if they do so. Thus far we haven’t seen any proof of this and plenty of proof to the contrary. Making the haystack bigger doesn’t make finding the needle any easier.

I believe it was at the second debate that Bernie Sanders spoke about Edward Snowden and although I wasn’t completely happy about his comments, at least he noted that Snowden did bring forth important information we would not otherwise have obtained and that should mitigate any punitive action the US would take against him."

This is great! Mommy and Daddy need to know what the children are doing … can’t have the kids going around doing bad naughty things in secret … like hiding their money from mommy and daddy when it’s time to pay the rent. Encryption is bad!

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You supported Hillary? What are you on? That lying skank has sold out to every major corporation, is a GMO spouting propagandist, a shrill for big government. She changes her political position more often than most people change their clothes.

As for the Manhattan project thing yeah the article is right she’s kind of missing the fact people don’t want law enforcement breaking encryption. That’s precisely why they use it, so that they won’t be surveiled. If law enforcement can break encryption then anyone can.

@blindsite2k. I hear you. I was cold then hot (because of the fear I noted she generated in some circles) and then cold. When I heard her little intern say Hilary has shown she could be a good Neocon that was it. Its like saying she could be a good Nazi. I was done with her over Assange before that. I couldn’t stand her stance on Assange and free speech and encryption. I have the sense that she totally doesn’t get free speech anymore if ever. Also that she’s become a right side shill. There is a better right and a very bad right. She used to say things in regard to the Republican culture of corruption, like they have a "plantation mentality. But now she is like one of them, but she’s seems very right even of Obama so it doesn’t at all seem like a case of subversion. I don’t mind the Bengazi stuff, she was smart not to use the public email despite it not being so transparent. But her %.5 tax raise on the rich is over 10 years is disgusting beyond belief. How much can you sell out?

As for the right all save for Paul (and only half of him) I think of them as criminal idiots not fit to run a McDonalds, and if we had working laws the prostitutes and plutocrats on the right would be doing long term prisons sentences and be stripped of their ill gotten wealth. Beyond a certain freedom inducing healthy baseline gain must match contribution. We cannot continue to have a rent seeker class seeing inherited power through puppet media and oil money. We have to recognize that capital is obsolete and go toward more cooperative forms of wealth distribution as we cut cords as fast as possible. I see a total war on right now between the crypto freedom advocates and the oil monarchy puppet media types. That is the real battle front.

I think Trump should be relatively easy to defeat, just point out that he made his money pampering the arses of the very wealth, that he is a kind of ballooned up sycophant, go after his dumb ass diction, lack of vocab, that he seems like a alcoholic without the alcohol. That he doesn’t represent any of us, that he’s basically a terrorist and over and over and over again bring up that he wants to lower wages and really wants to continue to lower American’s quality of life even further. It wasn’t one of his misstatement it was a statement of his core philosophy and agenda. Wants to lower taxes even further on the useless rich. All in the name of fear and terror based competition. Another globalist phoney despite making some protectionist noise.