I´m not. Actually I usually speak about artists and content creators. I also mentioned that the discussion is too focussed on music. Photoshop was certainly not an example which involves music.
I don´t see any reason why the only way to reward awesome products should be based on a payments estimated by an algorithm that taxes farmers (which means that developers decided what factors are relevant to estimate value). In the case of Firefox Mozilla could be transparent about expenses/income (ie monitoring income within the browser) and ask their users for payments/donations (compared to how Wikipedia does this). If there is not enough money to finance the work, the project will put on halt. If it´s a good product (such as the Wikipedia or Firefox) this won´t happen.
I don´t see why farmers should be charged for the consumption of users and I don´t see why coders should be the ones to decide which factors of content interaction are valuable (ie traffic/success of farming) and which are not (this, of course, would afford more information about how the reward is planned to be calculated). It should be up to the users.
Btw. I didn´t argue against water-marking. Actually the proposal that mentioned also relies on the idea of water-marked content.
As with Inkscape GIMP is fine for personal use - it´s not an alternative to professional designers. Ask them. Restriction of access is neither the only nor the relevant reason why Photoshop is the industry standard. Developing this software would probably cost between 10-20 Mio $ and I can see why there is no crowdfunding to develop a real open-source competitor.
isn´t that again…video? Nevermind, I also don´t expect piracy with every video. It´s important to see the difference between Youtube Channels and a massive piece of Software such as Photoshop. Youtube Channels live on regular updates, the production cost is comparatively low and the most relevant reason why people upload their stuff is because there is surplus in the community - this you can´t copy. Communities are, if you like, the scarcity of all social media.
But again, this is thriving to a discussion against piracy, which is irrelevant to me. I objected to rewarding uploaders. I expect a discrepancy, you don´t. So I guess we should stick with my recommendation to wait a year after launch to evaluate the overall opinion of creators.
Watermarking the file before uploading it to the SAFE network is fine. That is under the control of the user and I am sure it will be done.
Remember that any data watermarking will be “broken” at some stage.
My post was purely about SAFE network doing the data modification, which means that data is no longer secure since it is modified immediately. Not applicable to what you were talking about.
Just to be sure you realise that the farmers are not “taxed” or lose any rewards for PtP. The pay the producer rewards is an extra reward that is independent to any farming rewards.
virgin money can only be earned through farming
all the other rewards payed by the network for other things are from farming taxation (thus dependent on farming rewards). otherwise it would be a fraudulent system, in my opinion
On my last understanding it’s 10% of the farming reward that go to the producer. Maybe there is two understandings to it but I have a real dougt that the network will generate 0.1 safecoin has an extra.
Look at @dirvine’s post on it and the 10% is just to start the discussions off, and it will be network calculation and not a “certain” %age.
Also as @dirvine confirmed the reward the producer amount is independent to the farmer reward amount. The farmer reward is not changed at all. They get the same whether or not the producer is paid.
When the cost of manufacturing of a product approaches zero, you move out of the business of producing the product. The margins are just too small to bother with it.
What you don’t do, is threaten all manufacturers, so that they can’t compete, to secure a personal income.
Data can be manufactured at a click of a button, so don’t expect to make money from creating copies of data. That time had passed. It has been on its way out since the printing press!
There are many ways to make money without relying on strong arming others. It may not be as lucrative, but why should it be?
and ultimately the people who use my app got the money from farming (last in chain). thus virgin money comes from farming only, right? all you have mentioned are a layer above farming
I think one of us misunderstood. The network will balance itself. But still there is 10% from the farmer reward that go to the producer. It’s what I understand.
David has said many times that magic numbers are not going to be left in the code. The 10% hasn’t even been coded yet and he has said that he doesn’t want the fixed amount. You decide, is a fixed amount going to be coded only to be removed before release. Either way we will not see he fixed amount. It does not reduce farmer rewards.
It’s not yet coded but it’s the current design until they find a better one that can work. And for the reward that doesn’t change for the farmer it’s not in safecoin, it’s from market value in real money for safecoin that will get adjusted over time.