I think I’m in general agreement with your conclusion and suggest that it could also find other niches too along the way as it evolves?
I’ve got to admit, when someone starts a sentence with “as a Biologist”, though a small alarm bell goes off in my head immediately……Noooo….not another argument from authority about to be set up again! Let’s hope not anyway.
I’m not sure if we are talking semantics or disagreeing or not to be honest, so I’ll address each point as I come to it if that’s OK.
Please ignore any tone or anything you may hear, its just the way I am really
I think it may be appropriate to bring in the biological definition of ‘NICHE’
OK, is the conversation then restricted to “Biological Evolution” in regard to SAFE only?
Intelligent beings (meme users!) create tools (hardware and software, as well as ideas and mental filters) and these tools have the ‘purpose’ of assisting our ability to thrive in our niche.
Ok……this all sounds good….but….hang on….wait a minute…
When you unpick all that, though, isn’t there some conflation going on?
Yes, humans make or create tools, tools with a “purpose”, such as a hammer, the “purpose” being….to batter people over the head with…say.
Humans don’t make or create ideas in the same way, the body does biologically, the idea itself to say “Make a hammer” occurs through biological processes, they just “come to you” by biological processes and are affected by memes and evolved mimetically as far as I can see, which again is a biological/social thing isn’t it? The way I see it either the idea stays in your head, or you tell it someone or make something with it…at which point whatever it is you make evolves by non-biological evolution….doesn’t it?
The Human as a whole doesn’t have a purpose biologically speaking as if it does implies a Human was created/made doesn’t it - I’m asking you as a Biologist, as you gave it as grounds for authority? A Creationist argument?
What I’m saying is “ideas and mental filters” are evolved biologically and are not tools in the same way as a hammer is, one has a “purpose” and one doesn’t, other than that which it gives itself which I would call “meaning” for clarity because I think words are being misused too. The word purpose can have 2 meanings so it causes this confusion I think.
So can we agree that there are 2 separate methods of evolution at work here anyway, or not?
In a way, our tools have their own niche. We alter our tools over time - (engineering/directed evolution) to increase our ability to thrive in our niche.
The tools the Humans make by engineering/directed Evolution……Yes…like a hammer which could be “purposed” for something.or "used " for something - as I said before it speaks to utility.
However if we change the tool too quickly, then it may fall out of use in it’s niche
Eh? Sorry you’ve lost me ….lol…no hang on a minute you are arguing the Creationist “Directed Evolution” “idea” aren’t you? If you are, this evolved memetically.
SafeNet has a purpose as it is a tool
Yes. For the purposes of Privacy, Security and Freedom……:
perhaps it will be a tool that can self-adapt by responding to particular goals/imperatives
How do you go about “responding” to a goal or imperative, surely as a biologist you would know that things respond to stimulus? lol.enough
Loving this reply as new topic idea…its Brill!.you can have some fun with this.